Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
NameRear Admiral John Salwey Hallifax 
[27, Ireland, 1957, Hamilton of Ballymacoll], [2, Vol I, pp. 661-2], [4, 1901 PRO ref RG 13/1097 for Upton Cott., Old Alresford, Hants], [3, His death aged 58, Q4 of 1904, Alresford dist, vol 2c, p. 103], [5, His death certificate No 218 for Alresford, Hants of 1904], [85, His Naval record, ref: ADM 196/15/317]
[27, Ireland, 1957, Hamilton of Ballymacoll], [2, Vol I, pp. 661-2], [4, 1901 PRO ref RG 13/1097 for Upton Cott., Old Alresford, Hants], [3, His death aged 58, Q4 of 1904, Alresford dist, vol 2c, p. 103], [5, His death certificate No 218 for Alresford, Hants of 1904], [85, His Naval record, ref: ADM 196/15/317]Birth9 Mar 1846, Birr, Ireland
Death11 Dec 1904, Upton Cottage, Old Alresford, Hants
General8th child, 3rd s. RN: 1883: Commander, 1901: Captain, retd., 1904: Rear-Adml (retd).
FatherBrigadier Robert Dampier Hallifax (1804-1857)
MotherHarriet Thomson (1812-1891)
Spouses
1Charlotte Annie Hamilton [27, Ireland, 1957, H'ton of Ballymacoll], [4, 1881: PRO ref RG11 - 0790], [4, 1901 PRO ref RG 13/1097 for Upton Cott., Old Alresford, Hants], [4, 1871 PRO Ref No RG 10 157], [5, Cert no 495 for her birth, Corfu Garrison, Aug 1858]
[27, Ireland, 1957, H'ton of Ballymacoll], [4, 1881: PRO ref RG11 - 0790], [4, 1901 PRO ref RG 13/1097 for Upton Cott., Old Alresford, Hants], [4, 1871 PRO Ref No RG 10 157], [5, Cert no 495 for her birth, Corfu Garrison, Aug 1858]FatherMajor General Thomas de Courcy Hamilton VC (1825-1908)
MotherMary Ann Louisa Baynes (1831-1913)
Marriage27 Apr 1882, St John's Church, Cheltenham, Glos [86], [3, Their marriage: Q2 of 1882, Cheltenham dist, vol 6a, p. 773], [5, Their marriage cert no 209 of St John's, Cheltenham of 1882]
ChildrenMuriel (1883-1966)
Guy Waterhouse (ca1884-1941)
Ronald Hamilton Curzon (ca1885-1943)
Oswald Ernest (1888-1984)
Eustace de Courcy (1891-ca1966)
Ursula (1893-1977)
John Staniford aka “Jack” (ca1898-1952)
Godfrey (ca1899-ca1920)
Notes for Rear Admiral John Salwey Hallifax
Sounds like he got the Salwey name from his first cousin once removed who married two Salweys in succession... In Ludlow there are several MIs, in St Laurence’s church and a plaque on a house in Broad St, to various Salweys who had moved from Richard’s Castle to there.
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MPL: Grannie Ferrand had another brother whom I could not fit on the line: Godfrey d.1920 unmarried.
Since her death we have sadly lost touch with the Hallifaxes. Any help in adding to this tree would be welcome, as (even more) would tales of their exploits.
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In the 1901 census he was living with his family at Upton Cottage, Old Alresford, Hants, aged 55, born in Birr, Ireland and a retired Captain, RN.
In the 1901 census his household was:
(a) himself and wife,
(b) 3 children,
(c) 6 servants.
In addition I have found in the 1901 census the three elder sons, Ronald, Eustace and Oswald but nowhere in England can I find Muriel, who by then was 18 and might just have been abroad??? Nor have I found Guy, the eldest son.
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In 1883 at the birth of his daughter Muriel he was a Commander RN of HMS Hector and living at 4 Clarence Parade Southsea, Hants. (TFPL, 2012: this is confirmed by the entrance in his his Naval Record.)
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On his death certificate he was 58 and a rear-admiral (retired). His informant was his daughter Muriel Hallifax (my grandmother) who was present at the death and living with her parents.
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In the 1861 census he was aged 15, a cadet in the RM, and with his mother and siblings at Portsea, Hants.
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From the London Gazette:
4 Jun 1869: Promoted to Lieut from sub-Lieut in RN.
18 Oct 1881: promoted from Lt to Commander in RN.
3 Jan 1888: Promoted from Commander to Captain.
5 Sep 1899: Capt J S Hx placed on retired list, at his own request.
9 Aug 1901: Promoted on the Retired List from Cap to Rear-Admiral.
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His naval record, obtained from The National Archives in June 2012:
Hallifax_John_Salwey_____ 316
Born 9 March 1846
Elected New - New
Period of Service Time served
Ship Rank From To Years Days Remarks
Britannia Nl Cadet 12 June 60 19 June 61 Second class certificate
3 months sea time in
London “ 20 June 61 18 Sep 62 Britannia. He enters
under Cir 288. being
Do Mid 19 Sep 62 5 Feb 63 above the years of age.
Sub-Lieut 19 Mch 66
Do Victory D 24Jan67 } 3 105
Galatea ” 3 Nov 66 30 June 69}
Galatea pd as Sub lt to 30Aug69
Do na to 25Jan70 Lieut on pass
Forte S Lieut 1 July 69 17 Feby 72 2 232
Pembroke S Lieut 18 Feb 72 3 Apl 72 - 46 Lieut 1 June 69
for leave
Woodlark S Lieut 4 Apl 72 20 Oct 73 1 200
Do S Actng 21 Oct 73 5 Decr 73 - 46
Commr
Do S Lieut 6 Decr 73 29 July 76 2 237
D of Wellington “ 10 July 81 3 Sep 81 - 56
Full pay leave HP
Hector H Commr 15 Sep 82 11 June 83 - 270 Commander 14 Octr 81
Do S Commr 12 June 83 26 July 83 - 45
Do Summer H “ 27 July 83 12 June 84 - 322
cruise
Do S “ 13 June 84 28 Jul 84 - 46
Do H “ 29 July 84 14 Sep 84 - 48
HP - 129 -
Wild Swan S “ 22 Jan 85 5 Mar 88 3 44
One pass from 10 Feb 88 aug 2 - 127 - 7/120
6/540 Captain 6 Mar 88 20 June 90 - – Captain 31 Dec 1887
Half pay 12/6
Assistance S “ 21 June 90 22 June 93 3 3
7/289 “ 23 June 93 10 July 93 - - 7/289 - 18 -
Half pay 14/6
Intrepid S ” 11 July 93 25 Aug 93 - 46
(Mendls)
7/298 ” 26 Aug 93 16 Apl 94 - - 7/328 - 234
Half Pay 14/6
Undaunted S ” 17 Apl 94 11 May 97 3 26
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Continued at page 527 23 188 4 134
527 Hallifax John Salwey
Period of Service Time served
Ship Rank From To Years Days Remarks
Junior Service 3 105
From Page 316 Senior Service 23 188 4 . 134
Edgar S Captain 12 May 97 20 July 97 - 70
8/45 ” 21 July 97 30 Mar 98 - - 8/74 - 253
Half Pay 16/6
Thunderer H ” 31 Mar 98 1 Sept 98 - 155
Do S ” 2 Sept 98 12 Oct 98 - 41
Bristol Congress etc
Do H “ 13 Oct 98 31 Oct 98 0 19
Do S ” 1 Nov 98 31 Mch 99 - 151 Stat to 31 Mch 99
special mobn sent 1.6.99
MP 509/99
Do S.W. “ 1 Apl 99 10 Jul 99 }
} - 141 GSP £150 from 19 July 99
Do S.W. ” 11 July 99 19 Aug 99 } N.P. 1749/99
manoevres
Do Ser “ 20 Aug 99 5 Sep 99 - 17
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8/162 Retired Pay = 6 Sept 99 11 Dec 04 25 152/57 Retired (OR) from 31
£600 a year ============= Aug 1899 under O inf
(relinquishing 22.2.70
GS Pension)
& Retd Raer Dead Npaper / 04 NP 2117/99
Adml Wt 8.271 Wt 8/475 _____________
5 - 22
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Mrs Charlotte Annie Hallifax, widow & Arthur lee Knight Esq,
The executors. Probate granted at the Principal Regy 23 Jan 05
Gross value £ 29,n 724 : 16: 10 wt 8/486
Time for Retirement
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In full Allowed
Junior 3 - 105 3 - 105
Senior 25 - 52 25 - 52
Half Pay 5 - 22 1 - 250
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33 - 179 30 - 42
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Retd
Rear Admiral 16 June 01
Stat to N for NP 1.3.04
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MPL: Grannie Ferrand had another brother whom I could not fit on the line: Godfrey d.1920 unmarried.
Since her death we have sadly lost touch with the Hallifaxes. Any help in adding to this tree would be welcome, as (even more) would tales of their exploits.
___________________________
In the 1901 census he was living with his family at Upton Cottage, Old Alresford, Hants, aged 55, born in Birr, Ireland and a retired Captain, RN.
In the 1901 census his household was:
(a) himself and wife,
(b) 3 children,
(c) 6 servants.
In addition I have found in the 1901 census the three elder sons, Ronald, Eustace and Oswald but nowhere in England can I find Muriel, who by then was 18 and might just have been abroad??? Nor have I found Guy, the eldest son.
________________________
In 1883 at the birth of his daughter Muriel he was a Commander RN of HMS Hector and living at 4 Clarence Parade Southsea, Hants. (TFPL, 2012: this is confirmed by the entrance in his his Naval Record.)
________________________
On his death certificate he was 58 and a rear-admiral (retired). His informant was his daughter Muriel Hallifax (my grandmother) who was present at the death and living with her parents.
________________________
In the 1861 census he was aged 15, a cadet in the RM, and with his mother and siblings at Portsea, Hants.
________________________
From the London Gazette:
4 Jun 1869: Promoted to Lieut from sub-Lieut in RN.
18 Oct 1881: promoted from Lt to Commander in RN.
3 Jan 1888: Promoted from Commander to Captain.
5 Sep 1899: Capt J S Hx placed on retired list, at his own request.
9 Aug 1901: Promoted on the Retired List from Cap to Rear-Admiral.
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His naval record, obtained from The National Archives in June 2012:
Hallifax_John_Salwey_____ 316
Born 9 March 1846
Elected New - New
Period of Service Time served
Ship Rank From To Years Days Remarks
Britannia Nl Cadet 12 June 60 19 June 61 Second class certificate
3 months sea time in
London “ 20 June 61 18 Sep 62 Britannia. He enters
under Cir 288. being
Do Mid 19 Sep 62 5 Feb 63 above the years of age.
Sub-Lieut 19 Mch 66
Do Victory D 24Jan67 } 3 105
Galatea ” 3 Nov 66 30 June 69}
Galatea pd as Sub lt to 30Aug69
Do na to 25Jan70 Lieut on pass
Forte S Lieut 1 July 69 17 Feby 72 2 232
Pembroke S Lieut 18 Feb 72 3 Apl 72 - 46 Lieut 1 June 69
for leave
Woodlark S Lieut 4 Apl 72 20 Oct 73 1 200
Do S Actng 21 Oct 73 5 Decr 73 - 46
Commr
Do S Lieut 6 Decr 73 29 July 76 2 237
D of Wellington “ 10 July 81 3 Sep 81 - 56
Full pay leave HP
Hector H Commr 15 Sep 82 11 June 83 - 270 Commander 14 Octr 81
Do S Commr 12 June 83 26 July 83 - 45
Do Summer H “ 27 July 83 12 June 84 - 322
cruise
Do S “ 13 June 84 28 Jul 84 - 46
Do H “ 29 July 84 14 Sep 84 - 48
HP - 129 -
Wild Swan S “ 22 Jan 85 5 Mar 88 3 44
One pass from 10 Feb 88 aug 2 - 127 - 7/120
6/540 Captain 6 Mar 88 20 June 90 - – Captain 31 Dec 1887
Half pay 12/6
Assistance S “ 21 June 90 22 June 93 3 3
7/289 “ 23 June 93 10 July 93 - - 7/289 - 18 -
Half pay 14/6
Intrepid S ” 11 July 93 25 Aug 93 - 46
(Mendls)
7/298 ” 26 Aug 93 16 Apl 94 - - 7/328 - 234
Half Pay 14/6
Undaunted S ” 17 Apl 94 11 May 97 3 26
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Continued at page 527 23 188 4 134
527 Hallifax John Salwey
Period of Service Time served
Ship Rank From To Years Days Remarks
Junior Service 3 105
From Page 316 Senior Service 23 188 4 . 134
Edgar S Captain 12 May 97 20 July 97 - 70
8/45 ” 21 July 97 30 Mar 98 - - 8/74 - 253
Half Pay 16/6
Thunderer H ” 31 Mar 98 1 Sept 98 - 155
Do S ” 2 Sept 98 12 Oct 98 - 41
Bristol Congress etc
Do H “ 13 Oct 98 31 Oct 98 0 19
Do S ” 1 Nov 98 31 Mch 99 - 151 Stat to 31 Mch 99
special mobn sent 1.6.99
MP 509/99
Do S.W. “ 1 Apl 99 10 Jul 99 }
} - 141 GSP £150 from 19 July 99
Do S.W. ” 11 July 99 19 Aug 99 } N.P. 1749/99
manoevres
Do Ser “ 20 Aug 99 5 Sep 99 - 17
___________
8/162 Retired Pay = 6 Sept 99 11 Dec 04 25 152/57 Retired (OR) from 31
£600 a year ============= Aug 1899 under O inf
(relinquishing 22.2.70
GS Pension)
& Retd Raer Dead Npaper / 04 NP 2117/99
Adml Wt 8.271 Wt 8/475 _____________
5 - 22
=============
Mrs Charlotte Annie Hallifax, widow & Arthur lee Knight Esq,
The executors. Probate granted at the Principal Regy 23 Jan 05
Gross value £ 29,n 724 : 16: 10 wt 8/486
Time for Retirement
–––––––––––––––––––
In full Allowed
Junior 3 - 105 3 - 105
Senior 25 - 52 25 - 52
Half Pay 5 - 22 1 - 250
__________ ___________
33 - 179 30 - 42
========== ===========
Retd
Rear Admiral 16 June 01
Stat to N for NP 1.3.04
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Notes for John Salwey & Charlotte Annie (Family)
At their marriage they were:
John Salwey Hallifax, 36, bachelor, Commander in Royal Navy, living at Cheltenham, with his father as Robert Dampier Hamilton, Colonel in the army.
Charlotte Annie Hamilton, 23, spinster, living at 5 Beaufort Building, Prestbury with her father as Thomas de Curcy Hamilton, Major General in the army.
The witnesses were J De C Hamilton (her father), Florence Hamilton (her sister), G P Curyon (n.n.), G M J Hallifax (n.n.) and Gwendoline Hamilton (her sister).
John Salwey Hallifax, 36, bachelor, Commander in Royal Navy, living at Cheltenham, with his father as Robert Dampier Hamilton, Colonel in the army.
Charlotte Annie Hamilton, 23, spinster, living at 5 Beaufort Building, Prestbury with her father as Thomas de Curcy Hamilton, Major General in the army.
The witnesses were J De C Hamilton (her father), Florence Hamilton (her sister), G P Curyon (n.n.), G M J Hallifax (n.n.) and Gwendoline Hamilton (her sister).