Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
NameJames Sydney Stopford 
[19, Baptism on 22 May 1808 at St Botolph, Barton Segrave, Northants], [4, 1861 ref: RG09, piece 2212, folio 39, p. 12], [4, 1881 ref: RG11, piece 797, folio 118, p. 1], [3, Death, Q3 of 1885, Windsor dist, vol 02C, p. 241]
[19, Baptism on 22 May 1808 at St Botolph, Barton Segrave, Northants], [4, 1861 ref: RG09, piece 2212, folio 39, p. 12], [4, 1881 ref: RG11, piece 797, folio 118, p. 1], [3, Death, Q3 of 1885, Windsor dist, vol 02C, p. 241]Birth14 Apr 1808, Barton Segrave, Northants
Baptism22 May 1808, St Botolph, Barton Segrave, Northants
Death8 Jul 1885, The Oaks, Sunning Hill, Ascot, Berks
General5th s. 1851: Merchant.
FatherRev Richard Bruce Stopford (1774-1844)
MotherEleanor Powys (1773-1854)
Spouses
Marriage16 Sep 1847, Manchester Cathedral Church [19, Marriage on 16th September 1847 at Manchester Cathedral, Lancs]
No Children
Marriage10 Mar 1868, St Paul’s, Wilton Place, Westminster, London [19, Marriage on 10 Mar 1868 at St Paul’s, Wilton Place, Westminster]
ChildrenMabel Catherine (1869-1952)
George Waller (1870-1959)
Philip James (1872-ca1952)
Reginald Arthur (ca1873-1926)
Eleanor Frances (ca1875-1910)
Heneage Frank (ca1877-1916)
Wyndham Horace (ca1878-1903)
Notes for James Sydney Stopford
m. (1) (1847) Frances Loyd, (2) (1868) Katherine Mary Waller
His baptism, thanks for Ancestry’s provision of a Bishop Transcripts image, transcript by me:
“ Extract from the Parish Register of
“ Barton Seagrave
“ 1808
“ Baptisms
“. . . .
“James Sydney Son of Richard Bruce & Eleanor Stopford was baptized May 22d.1808”
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No children found with his first wife.
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In 1861, he was a widower and staying with his sister Harriet Jane Tunnard, née Stopford.
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He and his second wife had five children:
Last name First name(s) Year Of Birth Registration District
Stopford Mabel Catherine 1869 St. George Hanover Square, London
Stopford George Walter 1870 Reigate, Surrey
Stopford Philip James 1872 St. George Hanover Square, London
Stopford Heneage Frank 1877 Reigate, Surrey, England
Stopford Wyndham Horace 1878 Reigate, Surrey
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In 1871 they were at Full address Halkin Place, St George Hanover Square, London with their first two children:
Name Relationship Condition Age M, Age F Occupation Where born
James Sydney Stopford Head M 62 - Retired Merchant Northamptonshire, Seagrave
Catherine M Stopford Wife M - 31 - Brussels, Belgium
Mabel C Stopford Daur - - 2 - London
G W Stopford Son - 10m - - Surrey, Redhill
Ellen E Borkin Serv U - 32 Cook London
Julia Talbot Serv U - 24 Nurse Suffolk, Great Himloe(?)
Sarah Chusman Serv U - 25 Housemaid Kent, Charing
Fanny Chusman Serv U - 21 Nurse Kent, Charing
William Howlett Serv U 24 - General Essex, Pedmarsh
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In 1881 they were at The Lodge, Reigate Foreign, Reigate, Surrey with the younger 5 children:
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Sydney Stopford Head M M 72 1809 - Barton Seagrave, Northamptonshire
Catharine M Stopford Wife M F 40 1841 - Belgium
Philip J Stopford Son S M 9 1872 - City of London, Middlesex
Reginald A Stopford Son S M 8 1873 - -
Eleanor A Stopford Daur S F 6 1875 - -
Hantage F Stopford Son S M 3 1878 - Redhill, Surrey
Wyndham H Stopford Son S M 2 1879 - Redhill, Surrey
Mary J Smith Serv S F 22 1859 Cook (dom) Battersea, Surrey
Mary Harman Serv S F 19 1862 Housemaid Horley, Surrey
Judith Cheyney Serv S F 14 1867 Housemaid Shoreham, Kent
Ref:
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 797
Folio 118
Page 1
Combined: 1881 ref: RG11, piece 797, folio 118, p. 1
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The above two censuses pose a problem, that the children of the family in the censuses number seven while those found on the birth indices number five. The extra children in the 1881 census are:
Reginald A Stopford b. 1873
Eleanor A Stopford b. 1875
This immediately led to finding Eleanor Frances Stopford with a Walter mother, in error for her actual Waller mother, on the GRO online index:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
STOPFORD, ELEANOR FRANCES WALTER
GRO Reference: 1875 M Quarter in SAINT GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE Volume 01A Page 377
But Reginald still could not be found not even in a search for Stopford births with no forename.
However a search for baptisms did produce him as Reginald Arthur Stopford baptised on March 5th 1873 at St Paul, Wilton Place, born at 3 Halkin Place with parents James Sydney and Catherine Mary Stopford. (Thanks again, Ancestry)
Probably it will be possible to find the baptisms of all the children. Indeed it is:
Date Name Church Parents
3 Mar 1869 Mabel Catharine St Paul, Wilton Place James Sydney & Catherine Mary
22 Jun 1870 George Walter St Paul, Wilton Place James Sydney & Catharine Mary
18 Feb 1872 Philip James St Paul, Wilton Place James Sydney & Catharine Mary
5 Mar 1873 Reginald Arthur St Paul, Wilton Place James Sydney & Catherine Mary
8 Jan 1875 Eleanor Frances St Paul, Wilton Place James Sydney & Catharine Mary
19 Aug 1877 Heneage Frank St Mary, Reigate James Sydney & Catherine Mary
30 Jun 1878 Wyndham Horace St Mary, Reigate James Sydney & Catherine Mary
What remains now is to find what happened to Reginald and Eleanor.
The Registrations for the six are:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
STOPFORD, MABEL CATHERINE WALLER
GRO Reference: 1869 M Quarter in SAINT GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE Volume 01A Page 351
STOPFORD, GEORGE WALLER WALLER
GRO Reference: 1870 J Quarter in REIGATE UNION Volume 02A Page 150
STOPFORD, PHILIP JAMES WALLER
GRO Reference: 1872 M Quarter in ST GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE Volume 01A Page 364
STOPFORD, ELEANOR FRANCES WALTER [sic]
GRO Reference: 1875 M Quarter in SAINT GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE Volume 01A Page 377
STOPFORD, HENEAGE FRANK WALLER
GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in REIGATE Volume 02A Page 147
STOPFORD, WYNDHAM HORACE WALLER
GRO Reference: 1878 J Quarter in REIGATE Volume 02A Page 166
Reginald Arthur’s Birth Registration can be found on FindMyPast and on the printed index page as:
First name(s) Reginald Arthur
Last name Stopford
Birth quarter 1
Birth year 1873
Mother's maiden name -
District St. George Hanover Square
County London
Country England
Volume 1A
Page 357
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
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His death index, confirming the above birth year:
Name: Age at Death (in years):
STOPFORD, JAMES SYDNEY 77
GRO Reference: 1885 S Quarter in WINDSOR Volume 02C Page 241
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His probate gives the precise death date.
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His baptism, thanks for Ancestry’s provision of a Bishop Transcripts image, transcript by me:
“ Extract from the Parish Register of
“ Barton Seagrave
“ 1808
“ Baptisms
“. . . .
“James Sydney Son of Richard Bruce & Eleanor Stopford was baptized May 22d.1808”
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No children found with his first wife.
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In 1861, he was a widower and staying with his sister Harriet Jane Tunnard, née Stopford.
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He and his second wife had five children:
Last name First name(s) Year Of Birth Registration District
Stopford Mabel Catherine 1869 St. George Hanover Square, London
Stopford George Walter 1870 Reigate, Surrey
Stopford Philip James 1872 St. George Hanover Square, London
Stopford Heneage Frank 1877 Reigate, Surrey, England
Stopford Wyndham Horace 1878 Reigate, Surrey
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In 1871 they were at Full address Halkin Place, St George Hanover Square, London with their first two children:
Name Relationship Condition Age M, Age F Occupation Where born
James Sydney Stopford Head M 62 - Retired Merchant Northamptonshire, Seagrave
Catherine M Stopford Wife M - 31 - Brussels, Belgium
Mabel C Stopford Daur - - 2 - London
G W Stopford Son - 10m - - Surrey, Redhill
Ellen E Borkin Serv U - 32 Cook London
Julia Talbot Serv U - 24 Nurse Suffolk, Great Himloe(?)
Sarah Chusman Serv U - 25 Housemaid Kent, Charing
Fanny Chusman Serv U - 21 Nurse Kent, Charing
William Howlett Serv U 24 - General Essex, Pedmarsh
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In 1881 they were at The Lodge, Reigate Foreign, Reigate, Surrey with the younger 5 children:
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Sydney Stopford Head M M 72 1809 - Barton Seagrave, Northamptonshire
Catharine M Stopford Wife M F 40 1841 - Belgium
Philip J Stopford Son S M 9 1872 - City of London, Middlesex
Reginald A Stopford Son S M 8 1873 - -
Eleanor A Stopford Daur S F 6 1875 - -
Hantage F Stopford Son S M 3 1878 - Redhill, Surrey
Wyndham H Stopford Son S M 2 1879 - Redhill, Surrey
Mary J Smith Serv S F 22 1859 Cook (dom) Battersea, Surrey
Mary Harman Serv S F 19 1862 Housemaid Horley, Surrey
Judith Cheyney Serv S F 14 1867 Housemaid Shoreham, Kent
Ref:
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 797
Folio 118
Page 1
Combined: 1881 ref: RG11, piece 797, folio 118, p. 1
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The above two censuses pose a problem, that the children of the family in the censuses number seven while those found on the birth indices number five. The extra children in the 1881 census are:
Reginald A Stopford b. 1873
Eleanor A Stopford b. 1875
This immediately led to finding Eleanor Frances Stopford with a Walter mother, in error for her actual Waller mother, on the GRO online index:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
STOPFORD, ELEANOR FRANCES WALTER
GRO Reference: 1875 M Quarter in SAINT GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE Volume 01A Page 377
But Reginald still could not be found not even in a search for Stopford births with no forename.
However a search for baptisms did produce him as Reginald Arthur Stopford baptised on March 5th 1873 at St Paul, Wilton Place, born at 3 Halkin Place with parents James Sydney and Catherine Mary Stopford. (Thanks again, Ancestry)
Probably it will be possible to find the baptisms of all the children. Indeed it is:
Date Name Church Parents
3 Mar 1869 Mabel Catharine St Paul, Wilton Place James Sydney & Catherine Mary
22 Jun 1870 George Walter St Paul, Wilton Place James Sydney & Catharine Mary
18 Feb 1872 Philip James St Paul, Wilton Place James Sydney & Catharine Mary
5 Mar 1873 Reginald Arthur St Paul, Wilton Place James Sydney & Catherine Mary
8 Jan 1875 Eleanor Frances St Paul, Wilton Place James Sydney & Catharine Mary
19 Aug 1877 Heneage Frank St Mary, Reigate James Sydney & Catherine Mary
30 Jun 1878 Wyndham Horace St Mary, Reigate James Sydney & Catherine Mary
What remains now is to find what happened to Reginald and Eleanor.
The Registrations for the six are:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
STOPFORD, MABEL CATHERINE WALLER
GRO Reference: 1869 M Quarter in SAINT GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE Volume 01A Page 351
STOPFORD, GEORGE WALLER WALLER
GRO Reference: 1870 J Quarter in REIGATE UNION Volume 02A Page 150
STOPFORD, PHILIP JAMES WALLER
GRO Reference: 1872 M Quarter in ST GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE Volume 01A Page 364
STOPFORD, ELEANOR FRANCES WALTER [sic]
GRO Reference: 1875 M Quarter in SAINT GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE Volume 01A Page 377
STOPFORD, HENEAGE FRANK WALLER
GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in REIGATE Volume 02A Page 147
STOPFORD, WYNDHAM HORACE WALLER
GRO Reference: 1878 J Quarter in REIGATE Volume 02A Page 166
Reginald Arthur’s Birth Registration can be found on FindMyPast and on the printed index page as:
First name(s) Reginald Arthur
Last name Stopford
Birth quarter 1
Birth year 1873
Mother's maiden name -
District St. George Hanover Square
County London
Country England
Volume 1A
Page 357
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
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His death index, confirming the above birth year:
Name: Age at Death (in years):
STOPFORD, JAMES SYDNEY 77
GRO Reference: 1885 S Quarter in WINDSOR Volume 02C Page 241
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His probate gives the precise death date.
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Will notes for James Sydney Stopford
His probate index:
1885
STOPFORD James Sydney
755
Personal Estate £7.715 19s. 2d.
18 August. The Will of James Sydney Stopford late of the Lodge Redhill in the County of Surrey who
died 8 July 1885 at The Oaks Sunning Hill Ascot in the County of Berks was proved at the Principal Registry by George Henry Waller of 16 Eaton-square in the County of Middlesex a Colonel in Her Majesty’s Army and Sackville George Stopford Sackville of Drayton House Thrapston in the County of Northampton Esquire the Executors.
Sackville George Stopford Sackville was the son and heir of his late brother William Bruce Stopford Sackville. Col Waller was the brother of his wife, the eventual Major General and 3rd Bart, and the uncle of the husband of his daughter Mabel.
His will has been ordered on 10 December 2021.
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His will remarkable for mentioning the names of none of the beneficiaries whatsoever. He passed on the marriage settlement to be divided by complicated sums among his eight children. His wife, whom he did name, was dead, his nephew and a relation of his wife were named as executors and he appointed some guardians for his unnamed children.
End of story.
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1885
STOPFORD James Sydney
755
Personal Estate £7.715 19s. 2d.
18 August. The Will of James Sydney Stopford late of the Lodge Redhill in the County of Surrey who
died 8 July 1885 at The Oaks Sunning Hill Ascot in the County of Berks was proved at the Principal Registry by George Henry Waller of 16 Eaton-square in the County of Middlesex a Colonel in Her Majesty’s Army and Sackville George Stopford Sackville of Drayton House Thrapston in the County of Northampton Esquire the Executors.
Sackville George Stopford Sackville was the son and heir of his late brother William Bruce Stopford Sackville. Col Waller was the brother of his wife, the eventual Major General and 3rd Bart, and the uncle of the husband of his daughter Mabel.
His will has been ordered on 10 December 2021.
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His will remarkable for mentioning the names of none of the beneficiaries whatsoever. He passed on the marriage settlement to be divided by complicated sums among his eight children. His wife, whom he did name, was dead, his nephew and a relation of his wife were named as executors and he appointed some guardians for his unnamed children.
End of story.
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Notes for James Sydney & Frances (Family)
The Marriage licence transcript by FindMYPast, full details from Soc of Genealogists:
First name(s) James Sydney
Last name Stopford
Licence year 1847
Licence date 25 Aug 1847
New calender date 25 Aug 1847
Bride's first name(s) Frances
Bride's last name LOYD
Groom's first name(s) James Sydney
Groom's last name STOPFORD
Place Dioceses of England & Wales
Country England & Wales
Record set Faculty Office Marriage Licences
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The marriage Register was found, thanks, on Ancestry, transcript by me:
“1847. Marriage solemnized at the Cathedral & Parish Church in the parish of Manchesterv
“ in the County of Lancaster
“No: 288
“When Married: September 16th. 1847
His Hers
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“Name: James Sydney Stopford Frances Loyd
“Age: full full
“Condition: Bachelor Spindter
“Profession: Esquire -
“Residence: St George’s Hanover Square, London Cheetham Hill
“Father: Richard Bruce Stopford Edward Loyd
“Father’s job: Clerk Banker
“Married in the above Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church
“ by Licence by me, W.Wilson, Junior Curate
“This Marriage was solemnized between us, James Sudmey Stopford, Frances Loyd
“in the Presence of us, Edward Loyd, F A Taylor, Jno King(?), Eliz Stopford
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First name(s) James Sydney
Last name Stopford
Licence year 1847
Licence date 25 Aug 1847
New calender date 25 Aug 1847
Bride's first name(s) Frances
Bride's last name LOYD
Groom's first name(s) James Sydney
Groom's last name STOPFORD
Place Dioceses of England & Wales
Country England & Wales
Record set Faculty Office Marriage Licences
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The marriage Register was found, thanks, on Ancestry, transcript by me:
“1847. Marriage solemnized at the Cathedral & Parish Church in the parish of Manchesterv
“ in the County of Lancaster
“No: 288
“When Married: September 16th. 1847
His Hers
=== ====
“Name: James Sydney Stopford Frances Loyd
“Age: full full
“Condition: Bachelor Spindter
“Profession: Esquire -
“Residence: St George’s Hanover Square, London Cheetham Hill
“Father: Richard Bruce Stopford Edward Loyd
“Father’s job: Clerk Banker
“Married in the above Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church
“ by Licence by me, W.Wilson, Junior Curate
“This Marriage was solemnized between us, James Sudmey Stopford, Frances Loyd
“in the Presence of us, Edward Loyd, F A Taylor, Jno King(?), Eliz Stopford
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Notes for James Sydney & Catherine Mary (Family)
The Licence application:
“DIOCESE OF LONDON
“ 4th March 1868
“APPEARED PERSONALLY, James Sydney Stopford, Esquire of the District of Saint Paul, Wilton Place, in the County of Middlesex, a widower,
“and prayed a Licence for the Solemnization of Matrimony in the District Church of Saint Paul Wilton Place, aforesaid, between him and Catherine Mary Waller of No 16 Eaton Square, in the same County, a spinster of the age of twenty one years and upwards
“and made oath that he believeth that there is no Impediment of Kindred or Alliance, or of any other lawful cause, nor any Suit commenced in any Ecclesiastical Court to bar or hinder the Proceeding of the said matrimony, according to the tenor of such Licence.
“And he further made oath, that he the said Appearer hath had his usual place of abode within the said District of Saint Paul Wilton Place for the space of Fifteen days last past.
J.S.Stopford
Sworn before me
?G.Middleton
Surr.
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There was then an enormous fight to find the marriage register page. Ancestry is supposed to have all Westminster parish register images but no index search that I could find worked. I knew from the Licence that the marriage was to be in St Paul’s, Wilton Place. Eventually I found how to approach this register directly and go through it by a page index until I found the right page, using Burke’s information that they had married on the 10th March 1868. And they had done precisely that, with a transcript by me from Ancestry’s image:
“ Page 185
“1868. Marriage solemnized at St Paul’s Church in the District chapelry of St Paul’s Wilton Place
“ in the County of Middlesex
“NO:
“When married:
His Hers
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“Name: James Sydney Stopford Catherine Mary Waller
“Age: Full Full
“Condition: Widower Spinster
“Profession: Esquire -
“Residence: 3 Halkin Place 16 Eaton Square
“Father: Richard Bruce Stopford Thomas Wathen Waller
“Father’s job: Clerk in Holy Orders Baronet
Married in the Above Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church,
“ by Licence by me, G.R. Glenge(?) G.G.
“This Marriage was solemnized between us, James Sydney Stopford, Catherine Mary Waller
“ in the Presence of us, T W Waller, Sackville G Stopford
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“DIOCESE OF LONDON
“ 4th March 1868
“APPEARED PERSONALLY, James Sydney Stopford, Esquire of the District of Saint Paul, Wilton Place, in the County of Middlesex, a widower,
“and prayed a Licence for the Solemnization of Matrimony in the District Church of Saint Paul Wilton Place, aforesaid, between him and Catherine Mary Waller of No 16 Eaton Square, in the same County, a spinster of the age of twenty one years and upwards
“and made oath that he believeth that there is no Impediment of Kindred or Alliance, or of any other lawful cause, nor any Suit commenced in any Ecclesiastical Court to bar or hinder the Proceeding of the said matrimony, according to the tenor of such Licence.
“And he further made oath, that he the said Appearer hath had his usual place of abode within the said District of Saint Paul Wilton Place for the space of Fifteen days last past.
J.S.Stopford
Sworn before me
?G.Middleton
Surr.
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There was then an enormous fight to find the marriage register page. Ancestry is supposed to have all Westminster parish register images but no index search that I could find worked. I knew from the Licence that the marriage was to be in St Paul’s, Wilton Place. Eventually I found how to approach this register directly and go through it by a page index until I found the right page, using Burke’s information that they had married on the 10th March 1868. And they had done precisely that, with a transcript by me from Ancestry’s image:
“ Page 185
“1868. Marriage solemnized at St Paul’s Church in the District chapelry of St Paul’s Wilton Place
“ in the County of Middlesex
“NO:
“When married:
His Hers
=== ====
“Name: James Sydney Stopford Catherine Mary Waller
“Age: Full Full
“Condition: Widower Spinster
“Profession: Esquire -
“Residence: 3 Halkin Place 16 Eaton Square
“Father: Richard Bruce Stopford Thomas Wathen Waller
“Father’s job: Clerk in Holy Orders Baronet
Married in the Above Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church,
“ by Licence by me, G.R. Glenge(?) G.G.
“This Marriage was solemnized between us, James Sydney Stopford, Catherine Mary Waller
“ in the Presence of us, T W Waller, Sackville G Stopford
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