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NameCharles William Martin 
[11], [32, Probate at Principal Registry, London on 8 June 1863], [4, 1851 ref: HO107 Piece: 1666 Folio: 416 Page: 7]
[11], [32, Probate at Principal Registry, London on 8 June 1863], [4, 1851 ref: HO107 Piece: 1666 Folio: 416 Page: 7]Birthca 1799, Great Ness, Salop
Death17 Jun 1862, Drowned at Sea.
Burial(none)
GeneralLanded Proprietor, Captain Mexican Navy. Retained E. India Service
Spouses
1Sarah Charlewood [4, 1851 ref: HO107 Piece: 1666 Folio: 416 Page: 7], [19, Baptism on 28 Nov 1797 at Checkley, Staffs], [11, Ferrand pedigree, p. 102]
[4, 1851 ref: HO107 Piece: 1666 Folio: 416 Page: 7], [19, Baptism on 28 Nov 1797 at Checkley, Staffs], [11, Ferrand pedigree, p. 102]FatherRev Charles Benjamin Charlewood (ca1769-ca1842)
MotherJane Ferrand (1775-1798)
Marriage3 Nov 1829, Checkley, Staffs [11, Ferrand pedigree, p. 104], [21, Marriage on 3 Nov 1829 at Checkley]
ChildrenCharles Walker (ca1831-1864)
Mary Catherine (ca1833-1907)
George Edward (ca1834-1908)
Jane Sophia (1835-ca1900)
Sarah Amelia (ca1836-1913)
John James (1839-1923)
Notes for Charles William Martin
Grandson of John, 3rd Duke of Atholl.
Probably (cf Burke’s Peerage of 1885) he was the son of Rev George Martin, d. 1822, and Mary Murray, d. 1814, the 4th dau. of Jphn Murray, 3rd duke who lived 1755-1830 and m. Jan dau. of Charles, 9th lord Cathcart and which Charles was gt-gt-grandfather of Constance Cathcart who m. Wm Harris Ferrand, the elder brother of my grandfather Guy Ferrand. Wow!
His death cannot be identified, though from his disappearance starting with the 1961 census, though Sarah said she was ‘Married’ not ‘Widow’; in 1871 she was definitely a widow. So it is likely that he died between 1851 and 1871, with more probability between 1861 and 1871.
There is no will on PCC held at The national Archives from 1851, when he was last recorded, to 1858 when wills are found in the Holborn holdings.
I have looked at all the Martins from 1858 to 1862 and so far there is no will for him. But there is one in 1863 which is precisely him as it says he died at Belvidire, Christchurch and includes his executor and widow, Sarah Martin. But he died in or since December 1861 at Sea (presumably it took some time to establish this).
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His death at sea: (Nat Archives ref BT 153, box 5, p. 98)
First name(s) Charles
Last name Martin
Gender Male
Birth year -
Death year 1862
Death date 17 Jun 1862
Vessel name Jas Pilkington
Home port L Pool
Departure port -
Series BT 153
Box 0005
Page 98
Record set Deaths at sea, 1781-1968
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Probably (cf Burke’s Peerage of 1885) he was the son of Rev George Martin, d. 1822, and Mary Murray, d. 1814, the 4th dau. of Jphn Murray, 3rd duke who lived 1755-1830 and m. Jan dau. of Charles, 9th lord Cathcart and which Charles was gt-gt-grandfather of Constance Cathcart who m. Wm Harris Ferrand, the elder brother of my grandfather Guy Ferrand. Wow!
His death cannot be identified, though from his disappearance starting with the 1961 census, though Sarah said she was ‘Married’ not ‘Widow’; in 1871 she was definitely a widow. So it is likely that he died between 1851 and 1871, with more probability between 1861 and 1871.
There is no will on PCC held at The national Archives from 1851, when he was last recorded, to 1858 when wills are found in the Holborn holdings.
I have looked at all the Martins from 1858 to 1862 and so far there is no will for him. But there is one in 1863 which is precisely him as it says he died at Belvidire, Christchurch and includes his executor and widow, Sarah Martin. But he died in or since December 1861 at Sea (presumably it took some time to establish this).
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His death at sea: (Nat Archives ref BT 153, box 5, p. 98)
First name(s) Charles
Last name Martin
Gender Male
Birth year -
Death year 1862
Death date 17 Jun 1862
Vessel name Jas Pilkington
Home port L Pool
Departure port -
Series BT 153
Box 0005
Page 98
Record set Deaths at sea, 1781-1968
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Will notes for Charles William Martin
His probate was effected on 8th June 1863:
MARTIN Charles William. The will of Charles William Martin late of Belvedere near Christchurch in the County of Southampton deceased who died in or since December 1861 at Sea was proved at the Principal Registry by the oath of Sarah Martin of Belvedere aforesaid Widow the Relict the sole Executrix.
Effects under £4,000.
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MARTIN Charles William. The will of Charles William Martin late of Belvedere near Christchurch in the County of Southampton deceased who died in or since December 1861 at Sea was proved at the Principal Registry by the oath of Sarah Martin of Belvedere aforesaid Widow the Relict the sole Executrix.
Effects under £4,000.
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Notes for Charles William & Sarah (Family)
Their marriage on Family Search:
Name Charles William Martin
Spouse's Name Sarah Charlewood
Event Date 03 Nov 1829
Event Place Checkley, Stafford, England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number M03779-1
System Origin England-ODM
GS Film number 426524
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Name Charles William Martin
Spouse's Name Sarah Charlewood
Event Date 03 Nov 1829
Event Place Checkley, Stafford, England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number M03779-1
System Origin England-ODM
GS Film number 426524
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