NameSarah Palmer [19, Baptism on 3 Sep 1844 at Krkmabreck, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland], [4, 1871 ref: RG10, piece 159, folio 6, p. 6], [3, Marriage, Q2 of 1874, Kensington dist, vol 1A, p. 255], [4, 1901 ref: RG13, piece 35, folio 60, p. 20], [3, Death, Q3 of 1903, Kensington dist, vol 1A, p. 112]
Birth14 Aug 1844, Mark, Kirkmabreck, Scotland
Baptism3 Sep 1844, Kirkmabreck, Scotland
Death12 Aug 1903, 73 Onslow Square, Middlesex
Generaldsp. Her parents were John Palmer and Susan McLean.
Spouses
1Commander Grosvenor Stopford RN [3, Birth, Q2 of 1845, Hemel Hempstead dist, vol 6, p. 503], [4, 1851 ref: HO107, piece 1741, folio 415, p. 40]
Notes for Sarah Palmer
By the time of the 1881 census she was already a widow and staying with her sister in law. This census gave her birth year as 1845 and in Scotland.
This led to finding her baptism on Scotland’s People:
“1844
”Sarah, lawful Daughter of John Palmer Younghusband % Susan McLean residing at Mark, was born 14th August and Baptised 3d. September next by the Revd. Mr Reid of KirKimer”.
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In 1871 this looks like her with her parents and siblings at York Place, Marylebone, London:
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Palmer Palmer Head M M 58 1813 JP: Wigtown, Scot Whitehaven, Cumberland
Susan Palmer Wife M F 62 1809 - Scotland
Sarah Palmer Daur U F 26 1845 - Scotland
Sarah A Cartwright Serv U F 43 1828 Lady’s maid Cranemere, Shropshire
David Sailor Serv U M 18 1853 Footman Scotland
Ref:
Archive reference RG10
Piece number 159
Folio 6
Page 6
Combined: 1871 ref: RG10, piece 159, folio 6, p. 6
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There is an oddity about her father’s name: at her baptism he was “John Palmer Younghusband” and at the 1871 census he was “John Palmer Palmer”. This looks like my grandfather who was “Guy Ferrand ferrand”. So I wonder if he inherited an estate on his mother’s side and had to change his name and arms to Palmer?
I may look into this sometime, but it is aside from the current quest to document Powys descendants.
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In 1876 she proved the will of her husband and gave her residence as Physgill House, Whithorn in the County of Wigtown, Scotland.
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In 1901 she had a large household at 73, Onslow Square, Kensington, London:
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Sara Stopford Head W F 56 1845 Living on own means Scotland
James Horton Serv M M 46 1855 Butler Tonbridge, Kent, England
John Codling Serv S M 18 1883 Footman Wendling, Norfolk, England
Ellen Gertrude Jenner Serv S F 32 1869 Cook New Brompton, Kent, England
Edith Alma Carter Serv S F 40 1861 Lady's maid Dover, Kent, England
Amelia Hicks Serv S F 40 1861 House maid Ireland
Martha Bird Serv S F 19 1882 Kitchen maid Chelsea, Middlesex, England
Ref:
Archive reference RG13
Piece number 35
Folio 60
Page 20
Combined: 1901 ref: RG13, piece 35, folio 60, p. 20
By a remarkable coincidence this residence was the one given by her sister-in-law’s husband, Admiral Kennedy in 1896 when he was executor for his mother’s will.
Sarah’s father had been a landowner and she had married in Kensington. It is just possible that he had owned or rented this place himself perhaps on a very long lease. Being a landowner he might have had enough wealth to provide for his second daughter in considerable style. I would have been surprised if a the widow’s pension of a Commander, her young husband, would have provided for quite this sort of establishment.
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And she died at the same place: see her Will Notes.
Her death index:
Name: Age at Death (in years):
STOPFORD, SARAH 58
GRO Reference: 1903 S Quarter in KENSINGTON Volume 01A Page 112
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Will notes for Sarah Palmer
Her probate index:
1903
STOPFORD Sarah of 73 Onslow Square Middlesex widow died 12 August 1903 Probate London 25 September to Gilbert George Kennedy barrister-at-law Charles Arbuthnot Mc Lean solicitor and George Waller Stopford esquire Effects £53388 17s. 4d. in the United Kingdom.
Gilbert George Kennedy was a younger brother of the Admiral. George Waller Stopford was a cousin of her (very) late husband.
Will ordered.
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In her will dated 11th April 1896 with two codicils of 26th July 1900 and 3rd July 1903 she appointed Gilbert George kenned and Charles Arbuthnot Mc Lean. The probate office then appointed them plus George Waller Stopford who had been added in the second codicil and she listed these possible relatives:
She opened by saying that her husband had left her a list of relatives that she should donate his property to, while she had it absolutely in her widowhood.
1. Edith Louisa Kennedy, sister of her deceased husband and wife of Admiral William Robert Kennedy,
2. Alice Emily Kennedy, daughter of Edith Louisa,
3. Admiral William Robert Kennedy,
4. Edith Meugens, daughter of her late uncle Joseph Younghusband
5. Gertrude Tatley, daughter of her late uncle Joseph Younghusband
6. Blanche Tatley, daughter of her late uncle Joseph Younghusband,
7. The children of her late uncle Edwin Younghusband,
8. Henry Reginald Shipster, grandson of her late uncle William Younghusband,
9. Frederick Palmer Shipster, ditto
10. Sarah McLean or Roberts wife of David Thomas Roberts
11. Christine Mary Mc Lean
12. Elizabeth jane Mc Lean
13. Susan Palmer Mc Lean,
14. Harriet Margaret Mc lean,
15. Alice Mc Lean,
16. Emily Maud Mc lean, the seven daughters of her late uncle James Mc Lean,
17. Janet Margaret Mc Lean, daughter of her late uncle Alexander Mc lean,
18 Reginald Arthur Stopford, son of the late james Sidney Stopford, uncle of her husband,
19. Emily Mary Anne Clayton daughter of the late William Ashley Clayton
20. Audrey Stopford, daughter of Robert Wilbraham Stopford, Capt, RN, her godchild,
21. Stella Edith Collins her godchild, dau. of Wm E N Collins of Langley Place, Slough,
22. Her original executors,
23. James Norton her butler,
24. Mary Ann Fuller her cook,
25. Edith Alma carter her maid,
26. Robin Goodman her coachman,
27. Amelia Hicks her housemaid.
Phew!
What an account for anyone researchin her parents families.
The only people who may be included in this study pf Powys descendants are Nos: 1, 2, 3, 18, 20.
I need to find the descent of:
Robert Wilbraham Stopford,
Audrey Stopford, R W S’s daughter,
Reginald Arthur Stopford, I already have,
As do I also have Edith Louisa Kennedy and
Alice Emily Kennedy.
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Notes for Grosvenor & Sarah (Family)
Their marriage index:
First name(s) Grosvenor
Last name Stopford
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1874
Marriage Finder Grosvenor Stopford married one of these people
Sarah Palmer, Harriett Eastbury
District Kensington
County London
Country England
Volume 1A
Page number 255
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
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