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NameMartha Platt 
[3, Birth, Q1 of 1845, Wolstanton dist, vol 17, p. 279], [4, 1871 ref: RG10, piece 2858, folio 36, p. 15], [4, 1881 ref: RG11, piece 2720, folio 37, p. 8]
[3, Birth, Q1 of 1845, Wolstanton dist, vol 17, p. 279], [4, 1871 ref: RG10, piece 2858, folio 36, p. 15], [4, 1881 ref: RG11, piece 2720, folio 37, p. 8]Birthca Feb 1845, Wolstanton district, Staffs
General3rd dau. She had
FatherGeorge Platt (ca1811-1849)
MotherLouisa Bryan (1808-ca1881)
Spouses
Marriage6 Jul 1868, Hanley Old Church, Stoke on Trent, Staffs [19, Marriage on 6 July 1868 at Hanley, Stoke on Trent, Staffs]
ChildrenLouisa E (1871-)
Notes for Martha Platt
Her birth index:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
PLATT, MARTHA BRYAN
GRO Reference: 1845 M Quarter in WOLSTANTON AND BURSLEM UNION Volume 17 Page 279
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She may have died in 1929 or 1930:
Name: Age at Death (in years):
KNIGHT, MARTHA 85
GRO Reference: 1929 M Quarter in STOKE AND WOLSTANTON Volume 06B Page 294
KNIGHT, MARTHA 85
GRO Reference: 1930 S Quarter in STOKE AND WOLSTANTON Volume 06B Page 123
I think the second of these, born in 1845 is ...
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In 1871 they were living at Bow Street, Hanley, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire:
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Knight Head M M 36 1835 Potter Hanley, Staffordshire
Martha Knight Wife M F 27 1844 - Burslem, Staffordshire
Phoebe Knight Daur - F 7 1864 Scholar Hanley, Staffordshire
Thomas Knight Son - M 5 1866 Scholar Hanley, Staffordshire
Herbert Knight Son - M 2 1869 - Hanley, Staffordshire
Louisa Knight Daur - F 0 1871 (5 m) Hanley, Staffordshire
Ref:
Archive reference RG10
Piece number 2858
Folio 36
Page 15
Combined: 1871 ref: RG10, piece 2858, folio 36, p. 15
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In 1881 all her children from 1871 were still with her plus one more; her husband had died, between 1875 and 1881. They were living at 26, Plough Street, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire:
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Martha Knight Head W F 37 1844 - Burslem, Staffordshire
Phoebe Knight Daur S F 17 1864 General serv Hanley, Staffordshire
Thomas Knight Son S M 15 1866 Errand boy Hanley, Staffordshire
Herbert Knight Son S M 12 1869 Errand boy Hanley, Staffordshire
Louisa E Knight Daur S F 10 1871 Scholar Hanley, Staffordshire
Ralph Knight Son S M 5 1876 Scholar Hanley, Staffordshire
George Twemton? Ldgr M M 52 1829 Joiner Penkhull, Staffordshire
Lydia Twemton? Wife M F 42 1839 - Madeley, Staffordshire
Ref:
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 2720
Folio 37
Page 8
Combined: 1881 ref: RG11, piece 2720, folio 37, p. 8
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In 1891, not found
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In 1901 she, with her son Herbert, were living with her daughter Louisa E and Louisa’s family. See Louisa’s Misc Notes.
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In 1911 she was still with Louisa and Louisa’s now 9 children at 8 Boulton Street, Hanley, Stoke-On-Trent, Staffordshir.
There was another Martha Knight with her husband Thomas living not far away and also in Hanley but born a year earlier; she was born in 1843 in Morton Wood, Shropshire. Her husband was a bit younger and born in c.1851 in John St, Stoke on Trent. This Martha then died in the same year as the subject of this study leading to confusion of which death was whose.
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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
PLATT, MARTHA BRYAN
GRO Reference: 1845 M Quarter in WOLSTANTON AND BURSLEM UNION Volume 17 Page 279
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She may have died in 1929 or 1930:
Name: Age at Death (in years):
KNIGHT, MARTHA 85
GRO Reference: 1929 M Quarter in STOKE AND WOLSTANTON Volume 06B Page 294
KNIGHT, MARTHA 85
GRO Reference: 1930 S Quarter in STOKE AND WOLSTANTON Volume 06B Page 123
I think the second of these, born in 1845 is ...
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In 1871 they were living at Bow Street, Hanley, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire:
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Knight Head M M 36 1835 Potter Hanley, Staffordshire
Martha Knight Wife M F 27 1844 - Burslem, Staffordshire
Phoebe Knight Daur - F 7 1864 Scholar Hanley, Staffordshire
Thomas Knight Son - M 5 1866 Scholar Hanley, Staffordshire
Herbert Knight Son - M 2 1869 - Hanley, Staffordshire
Louisa Knight Daur - F 0 1871 (5 m) Hanley, Staffordshire
Ref:
Archive reference RG10
Piece number 2858
Folio 36
Page 15
Combined: 1871 ref: RG10, piece 2858, folio 36, p. 15
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In 1881 all her children from 1871 were still with her plus one more; her husband had died, between 1875 and 1881. They were living at 26, Plough Street, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire:
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Martha Knight Head W F 37 1844 - Burslem, Staffordshire
Phoebe Knight Daur S F 17 1864 General serv Hanley, Staffordshire
Thomas Knight Son S M 15 1866 Errand boy Hanley, Staffordshire
Herbert Knight Son S M 12 1869 Errand boy Hanley, Staffordshire
Louisa E Knight Daur S F 10 1871 Scholar Hanley, Staffordshire
Ralph Knight Son S M 5 1876 Scholar Hanley, Staffordshire
George Twemton? Ldgr M M 52 1829 Joiner Penkhull, Staffordshire
Lydia Twemton? Wife M F 42 1839 - Madeley, Staffordshire
Ref:
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 2720
Folio 37
Page 8
Combined: 1881 ref: RG11, piece 2720, folio 37, p. 8
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In 1891, not found
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In 1901 she, with her son Herbert, were living with her daughter Louisa E and Louisa’s family. See Louisa’s Misc Notes.
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In 1911 she was still with Louisa and Louisa’s now 9 children at 8 Boulton Street, Hanley, Stoke-On-Trent, Staffordshir.
There was another Martha Knight with her husband Thomas living not far away and also in Hanley but born a year earlier; she was born in 1843 in Morton Wood, Shropshire. Her husband was a bit younger and born in c.1851 in John St, Stoke on Trent. This Martha then died in the same year as the subject of this study leading to confusion of which death was whose.
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Notes for John & Martha (Family)
From tan image of the page in the marriage register, transcribed by me:
“ Page 100
“. . . .
“1869. Marriage solemnized at Hanley in the Parish of Stoke on Trent in the County of Stafford
“No: 200
“When married: July 6th
His Hers
“Name: John Knight Martha Platt
“Age: 34 24
“Condition: Bachelor Spinster
“Profession: Potter -
“Residence: Bow Street Dale St
“Father: Ralph Knight George Platt
“Father’s job: Potter Potter
“. . . .
“Married in the Old Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church
“ by Banns by me: J P Sandlands
“This marriage was solemnised between us: John Knight his X mark
“ Martha Platt her X mark
“In the presence of us: Abraham Dutton, Martha Bryan
Note that one of the witnesses was Martha Bryan; this is the same surname as Martha’s mother’s maiden name at Marth’s birth registration. It adds to the proposal that Marth’s mother, Louisa, was in fact a Bryan and not at Byan, as given at her, the mother’s, marriage. That said this witness Martha Bryan is looking strongly to be a relation.
A confirmation that this was her is that Martha gave her age as 24. If her birth registration is to be believed, she was born in either !4 of 1844 or Q1 of 1845 and so her age would indeed have been 24.
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“ Page 100
“. . . .
“1869. Marriage solemnized at Hanley in the Parish of Stoke on Trent in the County of Stafford
“No: 200
“When married: July 6th
His Hers
“Name: John Knight Martha Platt
“Age: 34 24
“Condition: Bachelor Spinster
“Profession: Potter -
“Residence: Bow Street Dale St
“Father: Ralph Knight George Platt
“Father’s job: Potter Potter
“. . . .
“Married in the Old Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church
“ by Banns by me: J P Sandlands
“This marriage was solemnised between us: John Knight his X mark
“ Martha Platt her X mark
“In the presence of us: Abraham Dutton, Martha Bryan
Note that one of the witnesses was Martha Bryan; this is the same surname as Martha’s mother’s maiden name at Marth’s birth registration. It adds to the proposal that Marth’s mother, Louisa, was in fact a Bryan and not at Byan, as given at her, the mother’s, marriage. That said this witness Martha Bryan is looking strongly to be a relation.
A confirmation that this was her is that Martha gave her age as 24. If her birth registration is to be believed, she was born in either !4 of 1844 or Q1 of 1845 and so her age would indeed have been 24.
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