Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
NameWilliam Turner 
[413, 1871 ref: RG10, piece 2963, folio 41, p. 12]
[413, 1871 ref: RG10, piece 2963, folio 41, p. 12]BirthMay 1825, Pontesbury, Shropshire
Baptism29 May 1825, Pontesbury, Shropshire
Deathbef 1881, Walsall district, Staffs
General1st s. 1841-1871: Miner.
FatherThomas Turner (ca1801-ca1877)
MotherMargaret Tipton (1806-ca1880)
Spouses
Marriage6 May 1850, Pontesbury, Shropshire [412, Marriage, Q2 of 1850, Atcham dist, vol 18, p. 25], [273, Parish Register entry on 6 May 1850 at Pontesbury church, Shropshire]
ChildrenIsaiah (ca1860-ca1914)
Notes for William Turner
There are 6 William Turner baptisms in the region of Pontesbury, Shropshire in 1828 give or take two years. But none in Pontesbury itself. So his birth cannot be easily identified.
However Family Search has his baptism:
Name: William Turner
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 29 May 1825
Christening Place: PONTESBURY,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Father's Name: Thomas Turner
Mother's Name: Margaret
However it is possible that this birth is not his: various counter information:
1. He consistently gave 1828 as his birth date.
2. Consistently gave Pontesbury as his birth place
3. But in 1828 in Alberbury, Shropshire, not far away, there is a baptism of a William son of Thomas and Mary Turner. And in the 1861 census his father gave his, Thomas’, birth place as Alberbury, not his otherwise consistent Pontesbury.
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His marriage certificate should give his father’s name: found on the parish register page image.
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There are two William Turner deaths in Staffordshire between 1871 when he was alive and 1881 when his wife was a widow:
Last name First name(s) Year Of Birth Year Of Death Year Location
Turner William 1828 1876 1876 Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire
Turner William 1827 1879 1879 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
I cannot work out which, if either, might be his. If he had died in a mining accident, a major collapse even, did they always provide a death certificate?
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However Family Search has his baptism:
Name: William Turner
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 29 May 1825
Christening Place: PONTESBURY,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Father's Name: Thomas Turner
Mother's Name: Margaret
However it is possible that this birth is not his: various counter information:
1. He consistently gave 1828 as his birth date.
2. Consistently gave Pontesbury as his birth place
3. But in 1828 in Alberbury, Shropshire, not far away, there is a baptism of a William son of Thomas and Mary Turner. And in the 1861 census his father gave his, Thomas’, birth place as Alberbury, not his otherwise consistent Pontesbury.
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His marriage certificate should give his father’s name: found on the parish register page image.
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There are two William Turner deaths in Staffordshire between 1871 when he was alive and 1881 when his wife was a widow:
Last name First name(s) Year Of Birth Year Of Death Year Location
Turner William 1828 1876 1876 Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire
Turner William 1827 1879 1879 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
I cannot work out which, if either, might be his. If he had died in a mining accident, a major collapse even, did they always provide a death certificate?
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Notes for William & Sarah (Family)
There are 26 marriages of a William Turner with a Sarah in Shropshire between 1840 and 1860, so their’s is beyond hope of identification!
But her surname was found from the births of her children and this led to their marriage in Shropshire:
First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name TURNER
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1850
MarriageFinder WILLIAM TURNER married one of these people
Harriet Tooth, Harriet Rudge, Sarah Blakemore, Elizabeth Ford
District Atcham
County Shropshire
Country England
Volume 18
Page number 25
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
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Eventually (all stories should have a happy ending) the full marriage record was found in the parish register complewte with image of that page:
Location: Parish church of Pontesbury, Salop
Cart No: 160
Date 6th May 1850
HIm Her
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Name: William Turner Sarah Blakemore
Age: 24 24
Condition: Bachewlor spinster
Job: Collier Servant
Residence: Pontesbury Pontesbury
Father Thomas Turner George Blakemore
Father’s Job: Collierv Miner
Calebrant: William Vaughan
Witnesses: Marth Walker (her mark), Thomas Nichols
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But her surname was found from the births of her children and this led to their marriage in Shropshire:
First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name TURNER
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1850
MarriageFinder WILLIAM TURNER married one of these people
Harriet Tooth, Harriet Rudge, Sarah Blakemore, Elizabeth Ford
District Atcham
County Shropshire
Country England
Volume 18
Page number 25
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
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Eventually (all stories should have a happy ending) the full marriage record was found in the parish register complewte with image of that page:
Location: Parish church of Pontesbury, Salop
Cart No: 160
Date 6th May 1850
HIm Her
——- ——-
Name: William Turner Sarah Blakemore
Age: 24 24
Condition: Bachewlor spinster
Job: Collier Servant
Residence: Pontesbury Pontesbury
Father Thomas Turner George Blakemore
Father’s Job: Collierv Miner
Calebrant: William Vaughan
Witnesses: Marth Walker (her mark), Thomas Nichols
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