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NameAdeline Bertha Thomas 
[4, 1911 for Larus Cottage, Porth St Columb Minor, Cornwall], [3, Her birth, Q1 of 1879, Barnet dist, vol 3a, p. 182], [3, Her death at 63, Q1 of 1946, St Austell dist, vol 5c, p. 112]
[4, 1911 for Larus Cottage, Porth St Columb Minor, Cornwall], [3, Her birth, Q1 of 1879, Barnet dist, vol 3a, p. 182], [3, Her death at 63, Q1 of 1946, St Austell dist, vol 5c, p. 112]Birthca Feb 1879, Old Southgate, Mx
Death15 Feb 1946, St Austell, Cornwall
FatherAlfred Thomas (ca1846-)
MotherMary E (ca1849-)
Spouses
1Alfred Docwra Turner [4, 1881 PRO Ref RG11/1375 for 26 Lanc. Rd. Nth, Hornsey, Mx], [3, His birth, Q3 of 1879, Islington dist, vol 1b, p. 243], [4, 1911 for Larus Cottage, Porth St Columb Minor, Cornwall], [3, His death aged 47, Q4 of 1926, Truro dist, vol 5c, p. 126]
[4, 1881 PRO Ref RG11/1375 for 26 Lanc. Rd. Nth, Hornsey, Mx], [3, His birth, Q3 of 1879, Islington dist, vol 1b, p. 243], [4, 1911 for Larus Cottage, Porth St Columb Minor, Cornwall], [3, His death aged 47, Q4 of 1926, Truro dist, vol 5c, p. 126]FatherAlfred Elphinstone Turner (ca1854-1918)
MotherEmma Docwra (1853-ca1943)
Marriageca Nov 1903, Rochford district, Essex [3, Their marriage, Q4 of 1903, Rochford dist, vol 4a, p. 1042]
ChildrenElphinstone Docra (1904-1990)
Notes for Adeline Bertha Thomas
Here is her birth record on FreeBMD:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Mar 1879
Thomas Adeline Bertha Barnet 3a 182
However the 1881, 1891 and 1901 censuses all show her as born in Southgate Mx. And registered at Barnet? Barnet does not seem too far away.
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In 1881, this apprears to be her:
RG number: RG11 Piece: 1195 Folio: 47 Page: 32
Reg. District: Christchurch
Sub District: Christchurch
Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District:
Parish: Holdenhurst
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Upper Stranraer, Holdenhurst
County: Hampshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born
CARROLL, Louisa Head Widower M 56 1825 Annuitant Bridlington Quay, Yorkshire
RICKLEY, Louisa Daughter Single F 34 1847 Annuitant Bridlington Quay, Yorkshire
ARNOLD, Sarah Servant Single F 27 1854 Ladies Maid Bridlington Quay, Yorkshire
COTTRELL, John Servant Single M 29 1852 Butler Melcombe Regis, Dorset
CHARLES, Matilda Lodger Single F 36 1845 Governess (School) Ashford, Kent
MORRIS, William G Nephew Single M 5 1876 Deptford, Kent
MORRIS, Nora A Niece Single F 4 1877 Deptford, Kent
LEACHMAN, Helen Lodger Single F 31 1850 Companion (Dom Serv) Slough, Buckinghamshire
THOMAS, Alfred N Lodger Single M 5 1876 Wood Green, Middlesex
THOMAS, Hugh B Lodger Single M 3 1878 Southgate, Middlesex
THOMAS, Adeline B Single F 2 1879 Southgate, Middlesex
THOMAS, Tom B Single M 1 1880 Southgate, Middlesex
BRISBY, Amy E Servant Widow F 26 1855 Nurse Dom Kingsland, Middlesex
TOMLINSON, Elizabeth S Servant Single F 23 1858 Nursemaid Blackheath, Kent
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From the 1891 family, this seems to be the rest of the family in 1881, giving the mother’s forenames:
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born
THOMAS, Alfred Head Married M 35 1846 Metallic Mining Engineer Brixton Middlesex
THOMAS, Mary E Wife Married F 32 1849 London City Middlesex
THOMAS, Mary E Daughter Single F 8 1873 Scholar Hornsey Middlesex
THOMAS, Elizabeth D Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar Hornsey Middlesex
THOMAS, Nellie Muriel Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar Hornsey Middlesex
THOMAS, Infant Son Single M 0 1881 East Barnet, Hertfordshire
FROST, Mary Servant Married F 56 1825 Nurse Dom Serv Ely Cambridgeshire
ABRAMS, Annie E Servant Single F 24 1857 Housemaid Dom Serv Ramsey Huntingdonshire
BARDWELL, Ellen Servant Single F 25 1856 Cook Dom Serv Woodbridge Suffolk
RG number: RG11 Piece: 1370 Folio: 17 Page: 27
Registration District: Barnet Sub District: Barnet EnumerationDistrict:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish: East Barnet (Herts) Municipal Borough:
Address: Whitehouse, East Barnet (Herts)
County: Middlesex
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In 1891 this appears to be her:
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born
THOMAS, Alfred Head Widower M 45 1846 Mining Engineer & Share Dealer Clapham, Surrey
THOMAS, Mary Ethel Daughter Single F 18 1873 Wood Green, Middlesex
THOMAS, Flory Dora Daughter Single F 17 1874 Wood Green Middlesex
THOMAS, Nellie Muriel Daughter F 14 1877 Wood Green Middlesex
THOMAS, Adeline B Daughter F 12 1879 Southgate Middlesex
THOMAS, Cyril J Son M 10 1881 Southgate Middlesex
THOMAS, Morris V Son M 7 1884 Southgate Middlesex
THOMAS, Noel G Son M 6 1885 Southgate Middlesex
THOMAS, Edwin F Son M 4 1887 Southgate Middlesex
TEACHMAN, Helen Servant Housekeeper Single F 43 1848 House Keeper Slough Buckinghamshire
PARROW, Elizabeth S Nurse Single F 39 1852 Nurse Morden Cambridgeshire
FULLER, Mary Ann Servant Single F 45 1846 Cook Andover, Hampshire
MADELL, Louisa E Servant Single F 16 1875 Housemaid London Ormonde ST
RG number: RG12 Piece: 1084 Folio: 9 Page: 13
Registration District: Edmonton Sub District: Edmonton EnumerationDistrict:
Ecclesiastical Parish: Christchurch Southgate
Civil Parish: Edmonton Municipal Borough:
Address: Camden House, Chase Road, Edmonton, Southgate
County: Middlesex
Note that Helen Leachman / Teachman is the same person as in the 1881 census.
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in the 1901 census this looks like her:
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born
NORTON, John Head Married M 41 1860 Sec Public Company London
NORTON, Annie Wife Married F 26 1875 Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire
NORTON, John Hamilton Son Single M 4 1897 Southend Essex
NORTON, Margarate Arnold Daughter Single F 0 (4 MOS) 1901 Hockley Essex
THOMAS, Adeline Nurse Single F 22 1879 Nurse Domestic Old Southgate Middlesex
BACON, Agnes Servant Single F 18 1883 House Maid Burnham Essex
ADEY, Nellie Servant Single F 17 1884 Cook Rayleigh Essex
RG number: RG13 Piece: 1677 Folio: 17 Page: 9
Registration District: Rochford
Sub District: Rayleigh
Enumeration District: 9
Ecclesiastical Parish: St Peter
Civil Parish: Hockley Municipal Borough:
Address: Plumborough Mount, Hockley
County: Essex
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I can find no death on FreeBMD up to 1950 and which makes sense of her birth date.
Ancestry gives a death aged 63 of Q1 of 1946 reg at St Austell, Cornwall, vol 5c, p. 112 which looks plausible.
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Mar 1879
Thomas Adeline Bertha Barnet 3a 182
However the 1881, 1891 and 1901 censuses all show her as born in Southgate Mx. And registered at Barnet? Barnet does not seem too far away.
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In 1881, this apprears to be her:
RG number: RG11 Piece: 1195 Folio: 47 Page: 32
Reg. District: Christchurch
Sub District: Christchurch
Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District:
Parish: Holdenhurst
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Upper Stranraer, Holdenhurst
County: Hampshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born
CARROLL, Louisa Head Widower M 56 1825 Annuitant Bridlington Quay, Yorkshire
RICKLEY, Louisa Daughter Single F 34 1847 Annuitant Bridlington Quay, Yorkshire
ARNOLD, Sarah Servant Single F 27 1854 Ladies Maid Bridlington Quay, Yorkshire
COTTRELL, John Servant Single M 29 1852 Butler Melcombe Regis, Dorset
CHARLES, Matilda Lodger Single F 36 1845 Governess (School) Ashford, Kent
MORRIS, William G Nephew Single M 5 1876 Deptford, Kent
MORRIS, Nora A Niece Single F 4 1877 Deptford, Kent
LEACHMAN, Helen Lodger Single F 31 1850 Companion (Dom Serv) Slough, Buckinghamshire
THOMAS, Alfred N Lodger Single M 5 1876 Wood Green, Middlesex
THOMAS, Hugh B Lodger Single M 3 1878 Southgate, Middlesex
THOMAS, Adeline B Single F 2 1879 Southgate, Middlesex
THOMAS, Tom B Single M 1 1880 Southgate, Middlesex
BRISBY, Amy E Servant Widow F 26 1855 Nurse Dom Kingsland, Middlesex
TOMLINSON, Elizabeth S Servant Single F 23 1858 Nursemaid Blackheath, Kent
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From the 1891 family, this seems to be the rest of the family in 1881, giving the mother’s forenames:
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born
THOMAS, Alfred Head Married M 35 1846 Metallic Mining Engineer Brixton Middlesex
THOMAS, Mary E Wife Married F 32 1849 London City Middlesex
THOMAS, Mary E Daughter Single F 8 1873 Scholar Hornsey Middlesex
THOMAS, Elizabeth D Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar Hornsey Middlesex
THOMAS, Nellie Muriel Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar Hornsey Middlesex
THOMAS, Infant Son Single M 0 1881 East Barnet, Hertfordshire
FROST, Mary Servant Married F 56 1825 Nurse Dom Serv Ely Cambridgeshire
ABRAMS, Annie E Servant Single F 24 1857 Housemaid Dom Serv Ramsey Huntingdonshire
BARDWELL, Ellen Servant Single F 25 1856 Cook Dom Serv Woodbridge Suffolk
RG number: RG11 Piece: 1370 Folio: 17 Page: 27
Registration District: Barnet Sub District: Barnet EnumerationDistrict:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish: East Barnet (Herts) Municipal Borough:
Address: Whitehouse, East Barnet (Herts)
County: Middlesex
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In 1891 this appears to be her:
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born
THOMAS, Alfred Head Widower M 45 1846 Mining Engineer & Share Dealer Clapham, Surrey
THOMAS, Mary Ethel Daughter Single F 18 1873 Wood Green, Middlesex
THOMAS, Flory Dora Daughter Single F 17 1874 Wood Green Middlesex
THOMAS, Nellie Muriel Daughter F 14 1877 Wood Green Middlesex
THOMAS, Adeline B Daughter F 12 1879 Southgate Middlesex
THOMAS, Cyril J Son M 10 1881 Southgate Middlesex
THOMAS, Morris V Son M 7 1884 Southgate Middlesex
THOMAS, Noel G Son M 6 1885 Southgate Middlesex
THOMAS, Edwin F Son M 4 1887 Southgate Middlesex
TEACHMAN, Helen Servant Housekeeper Single F 43 1848 House Keeper Slough Buckinghamshire
PARROW, Elizabeth S Nurse Single F 39 1852 Nurse Morden Cambridgeshire
FULLER, Mary Ann Servant Single F 45 1846 Cook Andover, Hampshire
MADELL, Louisa E Servant Single F 16 1875 Housemaid London Ormonde ST
RG number: RG12 Piece: 1084 Folio: 9 Page: 13
Registration District: Edmonton Sub District: Edmonton EnumerationDistrict:
Ecclesiastical Parish: Christchurch Southgate
Civil Parish: Edmonton Municipal Borough:
Address: Camden House, Chase Road, Edmonton, Southgate
County: Middlesex
Note that Helen Leachman / Teachman is the same person as in the 1881 census.
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in the 1901 census this looks like her:
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born
NORTON, John Head Married M 41 1860 Sec Public Company London
NORTON, Annie Wife Married F 26 1875 Walkeringham, Nottinghamshire
NORTON, John Hamilton Son Single M 4 1897 Southend Essex
NORTON, Margarate Arnold Daughter Single F 0 (4 MOS) 1901 Hockley Essex
THOMAS, Adeline Nurse Single F 22 1879 Nurse Domestic Old Southgate Middlesex
BACON, Agnes Servant Single F 18 1883 House Maid Burnham Essex
ADEY, Nellie Servant Single F 17 1884 Cook Rayleigh Essex
RG number: RG13 Piece: 1677 Folio: 17 Page: 9
Registration District: Rochford
Sub District: Rayleigh
Enumeration District: 9
Ecclesiastical Parish: St Peter
Civil Parish: Hockley Municipal Borough:
Address: Plumborough Mount, Hockley
County: Essex
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I can find no death on FreeBMD up to 1950 and which makes sense of her birth date.
Ancestry gives a death aged 63 of Q1 of 1946 reg at St Austell, Cornwall, vol 5c, p. 112 which looks plausible.
Will notes for Adeline Bertha Thomas
Her probate index:
TURNER Adeline Bertha of Treworlas Road Ruan High Lanes Philleigh Cornwall widow died 15 February 1946 at St Austell Cornwall Probate Bodmin 6 July to Elphinstone Docwra Turner squadron leader R.A.F. Effects £333 17s. 9d.
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TURNER Adeline Bertha of Treworlas Road Ruan High Lanes Philleigh Cornwall widow died 15 February 1946 at St Austell Cornwall Probate Bodmin 6 July to Elphinstone Docwra Turner squadron leader R.A.F. Effects £333 17s. 9d.
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