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NameJames Frederick Hay 
[3, Their marriage, Q3 of 1918, Kensington dist, vol 1a, p. 329], [3, His prob birth, Q3 of 1883, Lewish dist, vol 1d, p. 1077]
[3, Their marriage, Q3 of 1918, Kensington dist, vol 1a, p. 329], [3, His prob birth, Q3 of 1883, Lewish dist, vol 1d, p. 1077]Birthca Aug 1883, Lewisham district, Kent
Death26 Jun 1966, 10 St Michael’s Road, Worthing, Sussex
GeneralIn 1918 a capt in London Scottish.
Spouses
1Mary Katherine Trotter [4, 1901, PRO ref RG 13/14 for 40a Connaught St, Paddington, London], [3, Her birth, Q1 of 1889, Paddington dist, vol 1a, p. 69], [5, her birth cert no 178 of 1889 for St John dist, Mx], [32, Her will, proved at London on 31 May 1973]
[4, 1901, PRO ref RG 13/14 for 40a Connaught St, Paddington, London], [3, Her birth, Q1 of 1889, Paddington dist, vol 1a, p. 69], [5, her birth cert no 178 of 1889 for St John dist, Mx], [32, Her will, proved at London on 31 May 1973]FatherErnest Balfour Trotter (born BROWN) (1851-1934)
MotherKatherine Isabella Patteson (ca1852-1939)
Marriage19 Sep 1918, Kensington parish church, London [3, Their marriage, Q3 of 1918, Kensington dist, vol 1a, p. 329], [5, Their marr cert No 385 of 1918, Kensington psh ch, London]
ChildrenElizabeth Anne (ca1923-)
Notes for James Frederick Hay
TFPL, Apr 2008: This is the only birth between 1880 and 1885 in FreeBMD for a James F Hay:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Sep 1883
Hay James Frederick Lewisham 1d 1077
It looks very plausible; he would have been six years older than his wife. This birth year agrees with his age at marriage.
A similar entry, presumably giving his parents, appears in the 1901 census entry. His father was William Hay who had died before Sep 1918, but his death cannot be found on FreeBMD.
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On his admon he was of Strath Cottage, Almodington, Earnley, Chichester and formerly of Strathcot, East Drive, Ham Manor, Angmering, Sussex.
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The London Gazette has these entries for J F Hay, almost certainly him:
29 May 1917: 2nd Lt J F Hay to be acting Lt. 1st May 1917.
20 June 1917: 2t Lt (acting lt) J F Hay to be Lt. 5th May 1917.
11 Sep 1918: Lt J F Hay to be Capt. 4th July 1918.
13 Dec 1918: Capt J F Hay, 14th Bn, London Regt, relinquishes his commission on account of ill-health contracted on active service, and retains the rank of Capt. 14th Dec 1918.
27 June 1919: Capt J F Hay to be graded for purposes of pay and allowanted of Lt. from (S) 8th Jan 1919. (Substituted for the notification in the Gazette of 25th Feb 1919.)
(How could he be downgraded in 1919 when he had resigned in 1918???)
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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Sep 1883
Hay James Frederick Lewisham 1d 1077
It looks very plausible; he would have been six years older than his wife. This birth year agrees with his age at marriage.
A similar entry, presumably giving his parents, appears in the 1901 census entry. His father was William Hay who had died before Sep 1918, but his death cannot be found on FreeBMD.
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On his admon he was of Strath Cottage, Almodington, Earnley, Chichester and formerly of Strathcot, East Drive, Ham Manor, Angmering, Sussex.
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The London Gazette has these entries for J F Hay, almost certainly him:
29 May 1917: 2nd Lt J F Hay to be acting Lt. 1st May 1917.
20 June 1917: 2t Lt (acting lt) J F Hay to be Lt. 5th May 1917.
11 Sep 1918: Lt J F Hay to be Capt. 4th July 1918.
13 Dec 1918: Capt J F Hay, 14th Bn, London Regt, relinquishes his commission on account of ill-health contracted on active service, and retains the rank of Capt. 14th Dec 1918.
27 June 1919: Capt J F Hay to be graded for purposes of pay and allowanted of Lt. from (S) 8th Jan 1919. (Substituted for the notification in the Gazette of 25th Feb 1919.)
(How could he be downgraded in 1919 when he had resigned in 1918???)
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Will notes for James Frederick Hay
In the Probate Office, High Holburn, London, his death date and place were given. It also said that his residence was Strath Cottage, Almodington, Earnley, Chichester and that probate was granted at Lewes on 29th Sept 1966 to Mary Katherine Hay, widow of Stath Cottage, Almodington, Earnley, Chichester, Sussex, and Elizabeth Anne Hay spinster, his daughter of Wellcroft, Patching, Worthing, for £18,392.
In his will dated 8 Apr 1960 he listed:
the two above exectrixes,
His daughter Jean Mary Cooper of 6b Park Terrace, 2350 Portage Avenue, West Winnipeg, 12 Manitoba, Canada, wife of Richard Anthony Stanley Cooper.
After his wife’s life interest, his daughters shared his estate.
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In his will dated 8 Apr 1960 he listed:
the two above exectrixes,
His daughter Jean Mary Cooper of 6b Park Terrace, 2350 Portage Avenue, West Winnipeg, 12 Manitoba, Canada, wife of Richard Anthony Stanley Cooper.
After his wife’s life interest, his daughters shared his estate.
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Notes for James Frederick & Mary Katherine (Family)
At their marriage, he was James Frederick Hay, 35 and a bachelor and a captain in the London Scottish of 53 Lee Road, Blackheath; his father was William Hay, deceased. She was Mary katherine Trotter, 29 and a spinster, of 55 Kensington Palace Mansions, dau. of Ernest Balfour Trotter, a solicitor.
The witnesses were Florence Hay, Capt M A Trotter [her brother], Katherine I Trotter [mother], T Jackson [also a witness at Meyrick’s marr., so a Trotter connection] and Mary Treadgold.
The marriage was by licence which might produce a little more info.
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The witnesses were Florence Hay, Capt M A Trotter [her brother], Katherine I Trotter [mother], T Jackson [also a witness at Meyrick’s marr., so a Trotter connection] and Mary Treadgold.
The marriage was by licence which might produce a little more info.
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