Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
NameMargaret de Refham 
[100, M Andrews-Reading, “Margaret .. wife of Sir Adam Francis”, 5 Mar 2007]
[100, M Andrews-Reading, “Margaret .. wife of Sir Adam Francis”, 5 Mar 2007]Deathbef 1393
FatherRoger de Refham
MotherJoan (-1393)
Notes for Margaret de Refham
m. (1), by 1363, Thomas Tuddenham (d. 1371), (2) Adam Fraunceys.
She and Adam had four children (possibly five):
John, b. c. 1372, dsp dvp c. 1396
Nicholas, dsp, dvp
Agnes, b. c. 1387, dsp 1461, m. Wm Staundon, (2) Wm Porter
Elizabeth b. c. 1393, m. Thos Charlton.
Adam’s fifth child, Thomasia is as yet unknown as to her mother.
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Mar 2007, TFPL: It is known that Margaret’s mother Joan died in 1393 and that Hoan’s heir was Margaret’s son John. This probably implies that Margaret was dead in 1393 unless there was some curious rules about coverture that applied, that since she, Margaret, was married, she could not hodl properties herself.
In 1393 Margaret’s son John could only just have been adult: Tuddenham died in 1371 so Margaret was unlikely to have married Frauncis until 1372 implying that John, if he was the first child as well as eldest son, could not have been born until late 1372 or early 1373, making him a bare 21 in 1393.
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She and Adam had four children (possibly five):
John, b. c. 1372, dsp dvp c. 1396
Nicholas, dsp, dvp
Agnes, b. c. 1387, dsp 1461, m. Wm Staundon, (2) Wm Porter
Elizabeth b. c. 1393, m. Thos Charlton.
Adam’s fifth child, Thomasia is as yet unknown as to her mother.
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Mar 2007, TFPL: It is known that Margaret’s mother Joan died in 1393 and that Hoan’s heir was Margaret’s son John. This probably implies that Margaret was dead in 1393 unless there was some curious rules about coverture that applied, that since she, Margaret, was married, she could not hodl properties herself.
In 1393 Margaret’s son John could only just have been adult: Tuddenham died in 1371 so Margaret was unlikely to have married Frauncis until 1372 implying that John, if he was the first child as well as eldest son, could not have been born until late 1372 or early 1373, making him a bare 21 in 1393.
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Notes for Adam & Margaret de (Family)
See Margaret’s Notes for the reasoning to give a c.1372 marriage date.