Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
NameLouisa Christina Fox-Powys 
[3, Her birth, Q3 of 1879, Kensington dist, vol 1a, p. 191], [4, 1881 ref: RG11, piece 47, folio 110, p. 31], [4, 1891 ref: RG12, piece 902, folio 52, p.14], [4, 1911 ref: RG14 PN77 RG78 PN3 RD1 SD3 ED9 SN140], [62, 107th edn of 2003, Lilford article, vol II, p. 2332], [4, 1921 at Chattle Lodge, Blandford, Dorset], [27, 1937, 15th edn, Archer article, p. 44], [36]
[3, Her birth, Q3 of 1879, Kensington dist, vol 1a, p. 191], [4, 1881 ref: RG11, piece 47, folio 110, p. 31], [4, 1891 ref: RG12, piece 902, folio 52, p.14], [4, 1911 ref: RG14 PN77 RG78 PN3 RD1 SD3 ED9 SN140], [62, 107th edn of 2003, Lilford article, vol II, p. 2332], [4, 1921 at Chattle Lodge, Blandford, Dorset], [27, 1937, 15th edn, Archer article, p. 44], [36]Birth9 Sep 1879, Kensington district, London
Death19 Mar 1937, Salcombe Hill House, Sidmouth, Devonshire
General6th dau. Had six sons and one dau..
FatherLeopold William Henry Fox-Powys (1837-1893)
MotherLady Mary Acheson (1835-1892)
Spouses
Marriage9 Jun 1906, Holy Trinity Church, Chelsea, London [3, Their marr., Q2 of 1906, Chelsea dist, vol 1a, p. 861], [62, 107th edn of 2003, Lilford article, vol II, p. 2332], [19, Marriage on 9 Jun 1906 at Holy Trinity Church, Chelsea, London]
ChildrenAnthony Fox Skeffington Smyth (1907-1993)
Patrick Leopold (ca1909-1961)
Geoffrey Hubert Onslow (1910-1970)
Noel Powys (ca1912-ca1918)
John Graves (1914-1991)
Richard Raymond (1918-1995)
Anne Lucy (1922-1992)
Notes for Louisa Christina Fox-Powys
On FreeBMD her birth name is ‘Louise Christine Powys’ and is it pretty close to that at marriage, though with a Fox tagged on.
Her birth index from the GRO online site:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
POWYS, LOUISE CHRISTINE ACHESON
GRO Reference: 1879 S Quarter in KENSINGTON Volume 01A Page 191
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No baptism record to be found on any of FindMyPast, Ancestry or FreeReg.
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In 1911 she and Hubert with three children, all sons, were at 29 Sussex Gardens Paddington, London:
First name(s) Last name Role Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Herbert Graves Archer Head M M 41 1870 Private means London S Kensington
Louise Christina Archer Wife M F 31 1880 - London S Kensington
Anthony Fox Skeffington Smyth Archer Son - M 4 1907 - London Paddington
Leopold Patrick Archer Son - F 2 1909 - London Paddington
Geoffrey Hubert Onslow Archer Son - M 1 1910 - London Paddington
Alice Phoebe Sayers Serv S F 38 1873 Nurse Sussex Crawley
Louisa Charlotte Stevens Serv S F 33 1878 Cook Sussex Wandsworth
Catherine Ellen Brown Serv S F 25 1886 Housemaid Norfolk Cantleys
Florence Beatrice Williams Serv S F 26 1885 Housemaid London Battersea
Emily Willett Serv S F 16 1895 Under nurse London Stratford
Ref: 1911 ref: RG14 PN77 RG78 PN3 RD1 SD3 ED9 SN140
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They are in the 1921 census but I’m not squandering money on that until I am sure there is no other way.
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From the 1911 census, their children were:
First name(s) Last name Role Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Anthony Fox Skeffington Smyth Archer Son - M 4 1907 - London Paddington
Leopold Patrick Archer Son - F 2 1909 - London Paddington
Geoffrey Hubert Onslow Archer Son - M 1 1910 - London Paddington
On the census form they had declared that Louise had had three children, all of whom survived.
From FindMypast’s copy of the birth indices, the Archer births with a maiden name of Powys are:
Last name First name(s) Year Of Birth Year Of Death Location Mother
Archer Anthony Fox S S 1907 — Paddington, London, England Fox-Powys
Archer Patrick Leopold 1909 — Paddington, London, England Fox-Powys
Archer Noel P 1912 — Paddington, London, England Fox-Powys
Archer Male 1914 — Bath, Somerset, England Fox-Powys
Archer Male 1918 — Blandford, Dorset, England Fox-Powys
Archer Richard R 1918 — Blandford, Dorset, England Fox-Powys
Archer Anne L 1922 — Wareham, Dorset, England Dox-Powys (!)
I must congratulate FindMyPast on the flexibility for making the above list. I had only entered ‘Powys’ for the mother’s maiden name but FMP picked up the birth entries even though in every case, see below, the surname in the records was ‘Fox-Powys’. Ann’e mother’s maiden name seems to have been an obvious typo on the old index form as the new GRO index gets it right, from the information they got from the individual registrars.
A principal discrepancy between the 1911 census and the births found from FindMypast is that Geoffrey Hubert Onslow Archer does not appear in the latter. The answer is that his mother’s maiden name has not been added to FindMypast’s database. And the entry is on the GRO online database but with no name for his birth in 1910; though the page number on the old index sheets is 74b, not the 746 that FindMyPast has transcribed it as.
The transcript in the same format as above for Geoffrey is:
Last name First name(s) Year Of Birth Year Of Death Location Mother
Archer Geoffrey Hubert O 1910 - Paddington, London, England -
On the GRO online index,
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
ARCHER, ANTHONY FOX SKEFFINGTON SMITH FOX-POWYS
GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in PADDINGTON Volume 01A Page 61
ARCHER, PATRICK LEOPOLD FOX-POWYS
GRO Reference: 1909 M Quarter in PADDINGTON Volume 01A Page 77
ARCHER, - FOX-POWYS
GRO Reference: 1910 M Quarter in PADDINGTON Volume 01A Page 74 Occasional Copy: B
ARCHER, NOEL POWYS FOX-POWYS
GRO Reference: 1912 M Quarter in PADDINGTON Volume 01A Page 140
ARCHER, - FOX-POWYS
GRO Reference: 1918 J Quarter in BLANDFORD Volume 05A Page 324
ARCHER, ANNE LUCY FOX-POWYS
GRO Reference: 1922 D Quarter in WAREHAM Volume 05A Page 412
It is beginning to look like I will need to pay for the 1921 census to sort the above out.
But first a few deaths, which will be difficult to identify with the no-names.
I had to do the searches by registration district as there were far too many young Archer deaths:
Name: Age at Death (in years):
ARCHER, WILLIAM FREDERICK 0
GRO Reference: 1910 J Quarter in PADDINGTON Volume 01A Page 7
ARCHER, STANLEY ERIC 1
GRO Reference: 1912 M Quarter in BLANDFORD Volume 05A Page 289
ARCHER, NOEL POWYS 6
GRO Reference: 1918 S Quarter in BLANDFORD Volume 05A Page 237
ARCHER, STANLEY ERIC 0
GRO Reference: 1919 S Quarter in BLANDFORD Volume 05A Page 191
I cannot be sure that all these deaths are Louise and Hubert’s children but at least Noel Powys much have been. There were no deaths in Wareham.
I found that this family had an article on them in Burke’s Landed Gentry of 1937, p. 44. The children were listed as:
1, Anthony Fox b. 13 March 1907,
2. Leopold Patrick, b. 9 Feb 1909,
3. Geoffrey Hubert Onslow, b. 23 Feb 1910,
4. Noel Powys, b. 21 Dec 1911, d. 21 Sept 1918,
5. John Graves, b. 19 Feb 1914,
6. Richard Raymond, b. 13 Apr 1918,
7. Anne Lucy, b.16 Nov 1922.
The only one of these to have married before 1937 was said to be Leopold who married in 1933. This should be confirmed, or not, in my later investigations into this family.
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Now for the 1921 census: they were at Chattle Lodge, Blandford, Dorset
Age Cond- Children
Name Role Yrs Mths Sex ition Birth Place Occupation No Ages
Hubert Graves Archer Head 51 7 M M S. Ken, London none 5 3,7,11,
Louisa Christina Archer Wife 41 9 F M S.Ken, London Home duties 12,14
John Graves Archer Son 7 4 M Alive Bath, Somerset
Richard Raymond Archer Son 3 2 M Alive Chattle, Dorset
Rena Hughes Gnss 24 2 F S Paddington, London Governess
Edith Jane Wheeler Serv 35 3 F S Chettle, Dorset Cook
Ivy Gladys Merkell Serv 18 9 F S luton, Beds Parlourmaid
Ethel May Mitchell Serv 20 9 F S Crewkerne, Som Housemaid
Kate Taylor Serv 20 3 F S Crewkerne, Som Kitchenmaid
Reginald Charles White Serv 15 8 M S Thorncombe, D’set General
No reference number provided with the image of the form.
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My conclusion about their children:
1. The list in Burke’s Landed gents is complete.
2. Some evidence has been found for each child.
3. For John Graves the above 1921 census led me to find this on the GRO online records:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
ARCHER, - FOX-BURYS
GRO Reference: 1914 M Quarter in BATH Volume 05C Page 844
4. With this entry for John Graves, the number of registered child births on the GRO online index is seven, agreeing with the Burke list.
5. Accordingly these seven children will be added to this database, the only grandchildren of Leopold and Mary Fox-Powys.
6. Obviously Hubert and Louisa had difficulty agreeing the names of at least three of their children.
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Her death index:
Name: Age at Death (in years):
ARCHER, LOUISE CHRISTINA 57
GRO Reference: 1937 M Quarter in HONITON Volume 05B Page 21
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Her birth index from the GRO online site:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
POWYS, LOUISE CHRISTINE ACHESON
GRO Reference: 1879 S Quarter in KENSINGTON Volume 01A Page 191
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No baptism record to be found on any of FindMyPast, Ancestry or FreeReg.
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In 1911 she and Hubert with three children, all sons, were at 29 Sussex Gardens Paddington, London:
First name(s) Last name Role Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Herbert Graves Archer Head M M 41 1870 Private means London S Kensington
Louise Christina Archer Wife M F 31 1880 - London S Kensington
Anthony Fox Skeffington Smyth Archer Son - M 4 1907 - London Paddington
Leopold Patrick Archer Son - F 2 1909 - London Paddington
Geoffrey Hubert Onslow Archer Son - M 1 1910 - London Paddington
Alice Phoebe Sayers Serv S F 38 1873 Nurse Sussex Crawley
Louisa Charlotte Stevens Serv S F 33 1878 Cook Sussex Wandsworth
Catherine Ellen Brown Serv S F 25 1886 Housemaid Norfolk Cantleys
Florence Beatrice Williams Serv S F 26 1885 Housemaid London Battersea
Emily Willett Serv S F 16 1895 Under nurse London Stratford
Ref: 1911 ref: RG14 PN77 RG78 PN3 RD1 SD3 ED9 SN140
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They are in the 1921 census but I’m not squandering money on that until I am sure there is no other way.
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From the 1911 census, their children were:
First name(s) Last name Role Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Anthony Fox Skeffington Smyth Archer Son - M 4 1907 - London Paddington
Leopold Patrick Archer Son - F 2 1909 - London Paddington
Geoffrey Hubert Onslow Archer Son - M 1 1910 - London Paddington
On the census form they had declared that Louise had had three children, all of whom survived.
From FindMypast’s copy of the birth indices, the Archer births with a maiden name of Powys are:
Last name First name(s) Year Of Birth Year Of Death Location Mother
Archer Anthony Fox S S 1907 — Paddington, London, England Fox-Powys
Archer Patrick Leopold 1909 — Paddington, London, England Fox-Powys
Archer Noel P 1912 — Paddington, London, England Fox-Powys
Archer Male 1914 — Bath, Somerset, England Fox-Powys
Archer Male 1918 — Blandford, Dorset, England Fox-Powys
Archer Richard R 1918 — Blandford, Dorset, England Fox-Powys
Archer Anne L 1922 — Wareham, Dorset, England Dox-Powys (!)
I must congratulate FindMyPast on the flexibility for making the above list. I had only entered ‘Powys’ for the mother’s maiden name but FMP picked up the birth entries even though in every case, see below, the surname in the records was ‘Fox-Powys’. Ann’e mother’s maiden name seems to have been an obvious typo on the old index form as the new GRO index gets it right, from the information they got from the individual registrars.
A principal discrepancy between the 1911 census and the births found from FindMypast is that Geoffrey Hubert Onslow Archer does not appear in the latter. The answer is that his mother’s maiden name has not been added to FindMypast’s database. And the entry is on the GRO online database but with no name for his birth in 1910; though the page number on the old index sheets is 74b, not the 746 that FindMyPast has transcribed it as.
The transcript in the same format as above for Geoffrey is:
Last name First name(s) Year Of Birth Year Of Death Location Mother
Archer Geoffrey Hubert O 1910 - Paddington, London, England -
On the GRO online index,
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
ARCHER, ANTHONY FOX SKEFFINGTON SMITH FOX-POWYS
GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in PADDINGTON Volume 01A Page 61
ARCHER, PATRICK LEOPOLD FOX-POWYS
GRO Reference: 1909 M Quarter in PADDINGTON Volume 01A Page 77
ARCHER, - FOX-POWYS
GRO Reference: 1910 M Quarter in PADDINGTON Volume 01A Page 74 Occasional Copy: B
ARCHER, NOEL POWYS FOX-POWYS
GRO Reference: 1912 M Quarter in PADDINGTON Volume 01A Page 140
ARCHER, - FOX-POWYS
GRO Reference: 1918 J Quarter in BLANDFORD Volume 05A Page 324
ARCHER, ANNE LUCY FOX-POWYS
GRO Reference: 1922 D Quarter in WAREHAM Volume 05A Page 412
It is beginning to look like I will need to pay for the 1921 census to sort the above out.
But first a few deaths, which will be difficult to identify with the no-names.
I had to do the searches by registration district as there were far too many young Archer deaths:
Name: Age at Death (in years):
ARCHER, WILLIAM FREDERICK 0
GRO Reference: 1910 J Quarter in PADDINGTON Volume 01A Page 7
ARCHER, STANLEY ERIC 1
GRO Reference: 1912 M Quarter in BLANDFORD Volume 05A Page 289
ARCHER, NOEL POWYS 6
GRO Reference: 1918 S Quarter in BLANDFORD Volume 05A Page 237
ARCHER, STANLEY ERIC 0
GRO Reference: 1919 S Quarter in BLANDFORD Volume 05A Page 191
I cannot be sure that all these deaths are Louise and Hubert’s children but at least Noel Powys much have been. There were no deaths in Wareham.
I found that this family had an article on them in Burke’s Landed Gentry of 1937, p. 44. The children were listed as:
1, Anthony Fox b. 13 March 1907,
2. Leopold Patrick, b. 9 Feb 1909,
3. Geoffrey Hubert Onslow, b. 23 Feb 1910,
4. Noel Powys, b. 21 Dec 1911, d. 21 Sept 1918,
5. John Graves, b. 19 Feb 1914,
6. Richard Raymond, b. 13 Apr 1918,
7. Anne Lucy, b.16 Nov 1922.
The only one of these to have married before 1937 was said to be Leopold who married in 1933. This should be confirmed, or not, in my later investigations into this family.
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Now for the 1921 census: they were at Chattle Lodge, Blandford, Dorset
Age Cond- Children
Name Role Yrs Mths Sex ition Birth Place Occupation No Ages
Hubert Graves Archer Head 51 7 M M S. Ken, London none 5 3,7,11,
Louisa Christina Archer Wife 41 9 F M S.Ken, London Home duties 12,14
John Graves Archer Son 7 4 M Alive Bath, Somerset
Richard Raymond Archer Son 3 2 M Alive Chattle, Dorset
Rena Hughes Gnss 24 2 F S Paddington, London Governess
Edith Jane Wheeler Serv 35 3 F S Chettle, Dorset Cook
Ivy Gladys Merkell Serv 18 9 F S luton, Beds Parlourmaid
Ethel May Mitchell Serv 20 9 F S Crewkerne, Som Housemaid
Kate Taylor Serv 20 3 F S Crewkerne, Som Kitchenmaid
Reginald Charles White Serv 15 8 M S Thorncombe, D’set General
No reference number provided with the image of the form.
____________________
My conclusion about their children:
1. The list in Burke’s Landed gents is complete.
2. Some evidence has been found for each child.
3. For John Graves the above 1921 census led me to find this on the GRO online records:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
ARCHER, - FOX-BURYS
GRO Reference: 1914 M Quarter in BATH Volume 05C Page 844
4. With this entry for John Graves, the number of registered child births on the GRO online index is seven, agreeing with the Burke list.
5. Accordingly these seven children will be added to this database, the only grandchildren of Leopold and Mary Fox-Powys.
6. Obviously Hubert and Louisa had difficulty agreeing the names of at least three of their children.
____________________
Her death index:
Name: Age at Death (in years):
ARCHER, LOUISE CHRISTINA 57
GRO Reference: 1937 M Quarter in HONITON Volume 05B Page 21
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Will notes for Louisa Christina Fox-Powys
Her probate index (remarkably, from uk,gov site):
1937
ARCHER Louise Christina of Salcombe Hill House Sidmouth Devonshire (wife of Hubert Graves Archer) died 19 March 1937 Probate London 1 June to the said Hubert Graves Archer and Geoffrey Hubert Onslow Archer both of no occupation. Effects £525 5s. 4d.
This has to be ordered to see which (surviving) children she listed.
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1937
ARCHER Louise Christina of Salcombe Hill House Sidmouth Devonshire (wife of Hubert Graves Archer) died 19 March 1937 Probate London 1 June to the said Hubert Graves Archer and Geoffrey Hubert Onslow Archer both of no occupation. Effects £525 5s. 4d.
This has to be ordered to see which (surviving) children she listed.
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Notes for Hubert Graves & Louisa Christina (Family)
Ancestry, may I thank them, has produced an image of the marriage register page, transcript by me:
> Kensington and Chelsea > Holy Trinity Church, Chelsea > 1903-1936
“ Page 76
“1906. marriage solemnised at Trinity Church in the parish of Upper Chelsea in the County of London
“No: 152
“When Married: Ninth June 1906
His Hers
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“Name: Hubert Graves Archer Louisa Christina Fox Powys
“Age: 36 26
“Condition: Bachelor Spinster
“Profession: Gentleman -
“Residence: 17 Portsea Place, Connaught Square 80 Cadogan Square
“Father: Graves Thomas Archer Leopold William Henry Fox-Powys
“Father’s job: Barrister-at-law Son of a peer
“Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the
“ Established Church after Banns by me, H. R. Gamble
“This Marriage was solemnized between us, Hubert Graves Archer, Louise Christina Fox-Powys
“ in the Presence of us, E. C. Austen Leigh, Lucy Archer
E C (or G) Austen Leigh might have been either her sister Edith Galfrida Austen Leigh who m. (2) Edward Chenevix Austen Leigh or the latter.
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> Kensington and Chelsea > Holy Trinity Church, Chelsea > 1903-1936
“ Page 76
“1906. marriage solemnised at Trinity Church in the parish of Upper Chelsea in the County of London
“No: 152
“When Married: Ninth June 1906
His Hers
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“Name: Hubert Graves Archer Louisa Christina Fox Powys
“Age: 36 26
“Condition: Bachelor Spinster
“Profession: Gentleman -
“Residence: 17 Portsea Place, Connaught Square 80 Cadogan Square
“Father: Graves Thomas Archer Leopold William Henry Fox-Powys
“Father’s job: Barrister-at-law Son of a peer
“Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the
“ Established Church after Banns by me, H. R. Gamble
“This Marriage was solemnized between us, Hubert Graves Archer, Louise Christina Fox-Powys
“ in the Presence of us, E. C. Austen Leigh, Lucy Archer
E C (or G) Austen Leigh might have been either her sister Edith Galfrida Austen Leigh who m. (2) Edward Chenevix Austen Leigh or the latter.
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