TFPL, March 2003: I have seen his entry in the record books of the College of Arms.
He had been granted a beautifully painted new crest of a dragon's arm. and all of his family are recorded therein, including three generations of ancestors and his brother's four children. This was done in 1803.
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His baptism transcription:
First name(s) John
Last name Trotter
Baptism year 1758
Birth year 1758
Parish St Anne, Soho
County Middlesex
Country England
Father's first name(s) John
Mother's first name(s) Anne
Page 164
Birth date 02 Feb 1758
Baptism date 28 Feb 1758
Archive City of Westminster Archives Centre
Record set Westminster Baptisms
The actual entry was:
February 1758
Born Baptism Bapt date
2 John Trotter of John & Anne 28
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Death or burial not found.
Though the burial for a John Edward Trotter was found in Betchworth, Surrey in 1926 with the right birth year:
First name(s) JOHN EDWARD
Last name TROTTER
Birth year 1758
Death year 1826
Age 68
Burial year 1826
Burial day 17
Burial month 11
Place BETCHWORTH
Church description ST MICHAEL
Church denomination ANGLICAN
County Surrey
Country England
Record set National Burial Index for England & Wales
Or, in 1837:
First name(s) JOHN
Last name TROTTER
Gender Male
Death quarter 4
Death year 1837
District LAMBETH
County London
Volume 4
Page 247
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
or, in 1840:
First name(s) JOHN
Last name TROTTER
Gender Male
Death quarter 2
Death year 1840
District MIDHURST
County Sussex
Volume 7
Page 296
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
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That he was dead by 29 Jan 1846 is known from the fact that his wife was then recorded on PCC as a widow. No will can be found for him in England.
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In March 1827 Robert Trotter of Hastings, Sussex administered the Death Duties for both John and Henry James Trotter. Henry James looks very likely to have been that HJT who was son of JT and brother to RT, so I wonder if this gives a better clue to this John’s death date?
(Found on the Death Duty Registers on Find My Past.)
That not 100% reliable source, Burke’s Landed Gents has a record that Henry James died in 1830.
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Brian Bouchard wrote in on 14 Aug 2015 with this news:
“Eureka! I had identified a reference in a newspaper, under Cambridge,
to the death of John Trotter in his 68th year during 1826 but could not be
sure it referred to 'our' man. It turns out to have been him now found
brought from London for burial on 17/11/1826, aged 68, at Betchworth,
Surrey, - No 243 in the Register. No 614 records the interment of Jane
Sophia Trotter 81, 21/12/1845, from Twyford, Maresfield, Sussex.
“Why, you cry, Betchworth? Well it seems from the High Court case of Neilson
v Monro (decided in 1879) that Jane had inherited a moity interest in the
estate of Frances Dorothy Stables of Wonham following her death on
21/3/1832 -
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=ULcHAAAAQAAJ&a...nepage&q=Frances%20Dorothy%20Stables%20%2B%20Wonham&f=false
- but there's probably more to the matter than that!”
This leads to the burial record of a John
Edward Trotter:
First name(s) John Edward
Last name Trotter
Age 68
Birth year 1758
Death year 1826
Burial year 1826
Burial date 17 Nov 1826
Church St Michael
Denomination Anglican
Place Betchworth
County Surrey
Country England
Record set National Burial Index For England & Wales
While the age or birth year agrees with other information, I have not seen him described as ‘John Edward’ before, so a query remains on this finding.
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In March 1827, Robert Trotter was administrator for death duties for both these intestates: John Trotter (his father) and Henry James Trotter (his brother) and Robert was living at Hastings, Sussex. The Death Duty index pointed to a record in Vol 1, Folio 154 for both these records.
This gives another steer towards John’s death date.
The TNA gives this information about their records of death duties:
“Death duty registers are in
IR 26, with indexes in
IR 27. Board papers dealing with the administration of the duties are in
IR 62 and case books in
IR 67. Specimens of death duty accounts are in
IR 19, with selected death duty accounts of many persons well known in national life are in
IR 59. Letters concerning contentious cases are in
IR 6, with Scottish papers in
IR 7. Reports to the Treasury on legacy duty cases are in
IR 50. Copies of Wills, formerly in
IR 5, were disposed of under the Public Records Act 1958 s6.”
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“An Ordinary of Scottish Arms, (Vol I)” by James Balfour Paul, pub 1893 by Wm Green & Sons, p. 57. On 18th April 1803.
“Grantees of Arms” by the College of Arms, Vol II, by Joseph Foster edited by W Harry Rylands, pub 1917 in London for the Harleian Society, p. 371, referencing the College’s Registers, also 1803, vol XXII, fol 240.
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