Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
NameMajor John Frederick Arthur Trotter OBE 
[3, His birth, Q2 of 1887, Weobley dist, vol 6a, p. 611], [3, His death aged 67, Q3 of 1955, Worthing district, vol 5h, p. 850], [4, His entry in UK 1901 census], [27, 1899: Trotter of Horton Manor, p. 2053], [2, Vol 2, p.1966], [5, His birth cert No 62 of 1887 for Dilwyn district, Herefords]
[3, His birth, Q2 of 1887, Weobley dist, vol 6a, p. 611], [3, His death aged 67, Q3 of 1955, Worthing district, vol 5h, p. 850], [4, His entry in UK 1901 census], [27, 1899: Trotter of Horton Manor, p. 2053], [2, Vol 2, p.1966], [5, His birth cert No 62 of 1887 for Dilwyn district, Herefords]Birth16 May 1887, Samesfield Court, Samesfield, Dilwyn, Herefords
Death15 Feb 1955, Broom Cottage, Angmering-on-Sea, Sussex
GeneralOnly s. dsp.
EducationRadley school (1901 census).
FatherWilliam Sampson Trotter (born BROWN) (1839-1907)
MotherConstance Selina Feeney (ca1857-1949)
Spouses
Marriage6 Aug 1914, St James’ church, Westminster [3, Their marriage in Q3 of 1914, St Martin dist, Vol 1a, p. 1349], [5, Their marr cert No 225 at St James’ church, Westminster]
Notes for Major John Frederick Arthur Trotter OBE
What happened to him? Did he d. unm? Or did he marry. He could have d. in the Great War...
In 1901 he was not at home. In the 1929 Armorial Families he is listed but with no information apart from his birth.
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On 22nd May 1947, his mother wrote to her USA cousins and reported that "John" was not very well, he had TB and was being looked after by Ida. Was "John" her son and was Ida John's wife? The answer to both of these is almost certainly Yes.
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In the TNA Medals archive, Ref WO/372/20, Image Ref 13650, he was awarded the OBE (with no details), was a 2/Lt with the RHA (Royal Horse Artillery?) and later a Major with "A.A. Scot"? He received the 1914 Star.
The Times Digital Archive reports on 10th June 1918 that an O.B.E. was awarded to:
“Maj John Frederick Arthur Trotter for services with the B.E.F. in France.”
The London Gazette of 7th June 1916 had this announcement on page 6713 for his OBE:
“Major John Frederick Arthur Trotter
For services with the British Expeditionary Force in France”
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The Family Relatives site has a John F.A. Trotter marrying a Winsborough at St Martin’s district - Vol 1a, p. 1349 - in the July to Sep quarter of 1914. Must get the certificate... Done: Apr 2008.
On his birth certificate he was born on 16th May at Samesfield Court, Samesfield, as John Frederick Arthur Trotter, son of William Sampson and Constance Selina, née Feeney, Trotter. His father was a landed proprietor of the same address and informed the registrar on 22 June 1887.
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From the London Gazette, all in the Royal Field Artillery:
23 June 1916: To act Capt, Lt J.F.A. Trotter, Spec Res wef 12th April 1916.
7 Jan 1918: To act Major: Lt (temp Capt) J.F.A. Trotter, Spec Res wef 1st Oct 1917.
7 June 1918. OBE for Major John Frederick Arthur Trotter, For services with the British Expeditionary Force in France.
29 Sep 1919, Capt JFA Trotter OBE Spec Res to Capt from act Maj wef 9 May 1919
5 Mar 1929: Resigned commission: Captsin and granted the rank of Maj: J.F.A. Trotter, O.B.E.
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The TNA Medal chits archive have two for him:
One says: M.I.D LG {London Gazette] 18.5.17 Page 4874
The other has:
Disembarkation date, for BEF 1914: 6-10-14
Victory [Medal] QOff 132 235B
14 Star [Medal] Off 10 29
Emblems
It also records that he started as 2/Lt and at the time of the latest entry was a Major.
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Can’t find him in 1911 census.
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In 1901 he was not at home. In the 1929 Armorial Families he is listed but with no information apart from his birth.
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On 22nd May 1947, his mother wrote to her USA cousins and reported that "John" was not very well, he had TB and was being looked after by Ida. Was "John" her son and was Ida John's wife? The answer to both of these is almost certainly Yes.
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In the TNA Medals archive, Ref WO/372/20, Image Ref 13650, he was awarded the OBE (with no details), was a 2/Lt with the RHA (Royal Horse Artillery?) and later a Major with "A.A. Scot"? He received the 1914 Star.
The Times Digital Archive reports on 10th June 1918 that an O.B.E. was awarded to:
“Maj John Frederick Arthur Trotter for services with the B.E.F. in France.”
The London Gazette of 7th June 1916 had this announcement on page 6713 for his OBE:
“Major John Frederick Arthur Trotter
For services with the British Expeditionary Force in France”
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The Family Relatives site has a John F.A. Trotter marrying a Winsborough at St Martin’s district - Vol 1a, p. 1349 - in the July to Sep quarter of 1914. Must get the certificate... Done: Apr 2008.
On his birth certificate he was born on 16th May at Samesfield Court, Samesfield, as John Frederick Arthur Trotter, son of William Sampson and Constance Selina, née Feeney, Trotter. His father was a landed proprietor of the same address and informed the registrar on 22 June 1887.
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From the London Gazette, all in the Royal Field Artillery:
23 June 1916: To act Capt, Lt J.F.A. Trotter, Spec Res wef 12th April 1916.
7 Jan 1918: To act Major: Lt (temp Capt) J.F.A. Trotter, Spec Res wef 1st Oct 1917.
7 June 1918. OBE for Major John Frederick Arthur Trotter, For services with the British Expeditionary Force in France.
29 Sep 1919, Capt JFA Trotter OBE Spec Res to Capt from act Maj wef 9 May 1919
5 Mar 1929: Resigned commission: Captsin and granted the rank of Maj: J.F.A. Trotter, O.B.E.
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The TNA Medal chits archive have two for him:
One says: M.I.D LG {London Gazette] 18.5.17 Page 4874
The other has:
Disembarkation date, for BEF 1914: 6-10-14
Victory [Medal] QOff 132 235B
14 Star [Medal] Off 10 29
Emblems
It also records that he started as 2/Lt and at the time of the latest entry was a Major.
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Can’t find him in 1911 census.
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Will notes for Major John Frederick Arthur Trotter OBE
Will proved 4 May 1955 to Ida Winifred Trotter (wife) and to Eileen Trotter (sister).
Arms Generally notes for Major John Frederick Arthur Trotter OBE
Quarterly
1st & 4th: Argent, a crescent gules, on a chief indented azure three mullets pierced of the field, a canton argent, for distinction. TROTTER.
2nd & 3rd: Azure, a chevron chequy argent and sable between three fleurs-de-lis of the second. BROWN
Crests:
1st: A horse, trotting argent. TROTTER
2nd: A lion rampant gules, holding in his dexter fore-paw a fleur-de-lis argent. BROWN
Mottoes:
Over the crest of TROTTER: Festina lente
Over the crest of BROWN: Fortitudine et fidelitate.
1st & 4th: Argent, a crescent gules, on a chief indented azure three mullets pierced of the field, a canton argent, for distinction. TROTTER.
2nd & 3rd: Azure, a chevron chequy argent and sable between three fleurs-de-lis of the second. BROWN
Crests:
1st: A horse, trotting argent. TROTTER
2nd: A lion rampant gules, holding in his dexter fore-paw a fleur-de-lis argent. BROWN
Mottoes:
Over the crest of TROTTER: Festina lente
Over the crest of BROWN: Fortitudine et fidelitate.
Notes for John Frederick Arthur & Ida Winifred (Family)
On their marr cert no 25 of 1914 of St James’ church, Westminster, the date was 6 Aug 1914, he was John Frederick Arthur Trotter, 28 yrs, a bachelor and a gent of 89 Pall Mall, SW, son of Wm Sampson Trotter deceased, also a gent; she was Ida Winifred Winsbrough, 22, a spinster of the Railway Hotel, Paddington; her father’s name was deleted as William Winsbrough, Gentleman and with this note beside it:
“In Entry No 225 Col 3, dated (?) 27 and 23 respectively and in Col 7 on it Father’s name of Bride and his profession in Col 8 corrected by me Robert W. Thornton Aug 6 1914 Curate in the presence of J F Trotter, I W Trotter. The parties married ...(rest missing from this certificate”
The witnesses were F A Gilling and W G Bedford and the celebrant was Robt Wm Thornton.
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“In Entry No 225 Col 3, dated (?) 27 and 23 respectively and in Col 7 on it Father’s name of Bride and his profession in Col 8 corrected by me Robert W. Thornton Aug 6 1914 Curate in the presence of J F Trotter, I W Trotter. The parties married ...(rest missing from this certificate”
The witnesses were F A Gilling and W G Bedford and the celebrant was Robt Wm Thornton.
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