Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
NameWilliam Sampson Trotter (born BROWN) 
[2, Vol 2, p.1966], [27, 1899: Trotter of Horton Manor, p. 2053], [4, 1901, PRO ref 13/2471, for Fern Hill, West Malvern, Worcs], [4, 1881, PRO ref RG 11/0762, for Horton manor, Epsom, Surrey], [3, His death aged 68, Q3 of 1907 Bath district, Vol 5c, p. 309], [31, His birth and baptism entries], [19, His bapt, No 1575 on 24 Apr 1839, Wimbledon psh, page 197], [34, Epsom & Ewell Cemetery records, 1871-1950]
[2, Vol 2, p.1966], [27, 1899: Trotter of Horton Manor, p. 2053], [4, 1901, PRO ref 13/2471, for Fern Hill, West Malvern, Worcs], [4, 1881, PRO ref RG 11/0762, for Horton manor, Epsom, Surrey], [3, His death aged 68, Q3 of 1907 Bath district, Vol 5c, p. 309], [31, His birth and baptism entries], [19, His bapt, No 1575 on 24 Apr 1839, Wimbledon psh, page 197], [34, Epsom & Ewell Cemetery records, 1871-1950]Birth13 Mar 1839, Wimbledon, Surrey
Baptism24 Apr 1839, St Mary’s, Wimbledon, Surrey
Death21 Jul 1907, The Hill, Batheaston, Somerset
Burial24 Jul 1907, Epsom & Ewell Cemetery
General2nd s. but 1st surv. and heir. Of Horton Manor, Surrey. Lieut Royal Artillery.
EducationRadley: 1850-2. RMA Woolwich: 1854-6.
FatherWilliam Trotter (born BROWN) (1800-1887)
MotherMary Elizabeth Welbank (1812-1885)
Spouses
1Constance Selina Feeney [2, Vol 2, p.1966], [27, 1899: Trotter of Horton Manor, p. 2053], [4, 1901, PRO ref 13/2471, for Fern Hill, West Malvern, Worcs], [4, 1881 Census, PRO ref RG11, piece 2571/18, p. 30], [3, Her birth, Q3 of 1857, Aston dist., vol 6d, p. 219 ], [3, Her death aged 88 [sic], Q3 of 1949, Glos R dist, vol 7b, p. 365]
[2, Vol 2, p.1966], [27, 1899: Trotter of Horton Manor, p. 2053], [4, 1901, PRO ref 13/2471, for Fern Hill, West Malvern, Worcs], [4, 1881 Census, PRO ref RG11, piece 2571/18, p. 30], [3, Her birth, Q3 of 1857, Aston dist., vol 6d, p. 219 ], [3, Her death aged 88 [sic], Q3 of 1949, Glos R dist, vol 7b, p. 365]FatherJohn Frederick Feeney (1808-ca1869)
MotherBarbara Warden (ca1826-ca1894)
Marriage6 Mar 1886, All Saints church, Cheltenham, Glos [27, c. 1900, pp. 2053-4], [3, Their marriage, Q1 of 1886, Cheltenham dist, vol 6a, p. 554], [5, Their marr cert No 139 of 1886 at All Saints ch, Cheltenham]
ChildrenJohn Frederick Arthur (1887-1955)
Eileen Constance Beryl (1889-1974)
Notes for William Sampson Trotter (born BROWN)
Sounds like he is the one that sold Horton manor to the London County Council for asylums - History of Surrey, vol 3 page 275.
In the 1901 census he was living with his wife and daughter at Fern Hill, West Malvern, Worcestershire, as a retired Army officer aged 62, born in Wimbledon, Surrey.
Also in the 1901 census his household was the three of them plus three servants, a massive contrast to his father's style in 1881, not to mention his brother Henry Eden's style in 1901.
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On the 14th August 2005 I was informed that he had won the English Mutiny medal when he was in the Royal Artillery (and that it was in the possession of my informant).
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In Oct 2006, I found his death on that marvellous institution, FreeBMD. Now to find his will to see what children he listed and to see also if I can find the wills of his children both after 1947 - that being quicker than trundling through pages and volumes of Death Indices!
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FreeBMD does not record his birth.
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Dec 2007, TFPL: I found his obituary in The Times of 29th July 1907, which dwelt on his army career and the part he played in relief of Lucknow and for which he presumably won the above medal.
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His burial:
Trotter William Sampson
Gentleman
Age: 68
The Hill, Batheaston, Bath
Burial: 24 July 1907
Grave: A579A
Register: 4217
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In May 2014, Brian Bouchard kindly sent me this from an account of Old Radleians serving in india during the sepoy rebellion, 1857: -
“Brown, William Sampson, (afterwards Trotter). Born 1839. Son of William Brown of Horton Manor, Epsom. He entered Radley in 1850 and left in 1852. He attended Royal Military Academy, Woolwich, in 1854, being awarded the Sword of Honour in 1856 (the first Radleian to achieve this honour). He served in the Royal Artillery from 1857-67. He was present at the relief, siege and capture of Lucknow, was wounded three times and mentioned in despatches. He retired from the army when he succeeded to his family’s estates in 1885. In 1886 he married Constance Feeney. He died at Batheaston, Somerset on 21st July 1907”
He also added:
“It is generally thought that William S Trotter sold the estate to the LCC but, as a paper http://www.epsomandewellhistoryexplorer.org.uk/Hos...tml shows the vendor had been Sir Thomas Buxton. William Sampson Trotter inherited the property in 1885 and, it would seem, had the mansion re-built to the design of Sir Gilbert Scott. He may have got into financial difficulties because a sale was announced as early as 17/5/1890 and the furniture disposed off in 1892: an auction ‘by order of mortgagees’ came to be advertised in 1893 and my assumption is that would have been when the premises were acquired by Sir Thomas Buxton. Kelly’s Directory shows William Sampson Trotter in occupation during 1890 (and still in 1895 but I think that incorrect)”
I think that Sir Thomas Buxton may have acquired some other part of the original manor and which might well have got into disrepair.
In the 1901 census he was living with his wife and daughter at Fern Hill, West Malvern, Worcestershire, as a retired Army officer aged 62, born in Wimbledon, Surrey.
Also in the 1901 census his household was the three of them plus three servants, a massive contrast to his father's style in 1881, not to mention his brother Henry Eden's style in 1901.
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On the 14th August 2005 I was informed that he had won the English Mutiny medal when he was in the Royal Artillery (and that it was in the possession of my informant).
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In Oct 2006, I found his death on that marvellous institution, FreeBMD. Now to find his will to see what children he listed and to see also if I can find the wills of his children both after 1947 - that being quicker than trundling through pages and volumes of Death Indices!
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FreeBMD does not record his birth.
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Dec 2007, TFPL: I found his obituary in The Times of 29th July 1907, which dwelt on his army career and the part he played in relief of Lucknow and for which he presumably won the above medal.
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His burial:
Trotter William Sampson
Gentleman
Age: 68
The Hill, Batheaston, Bath
Burial: 24 July 1907
Grave: A579A
Register: 4217
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In May 2014, Brian Bouchard kindly sent me this from an account of Old Radleians serving in india during the sepoy rebellion, 1857: -
“Brown, William Sampson, (afterwards Trotter). Born 1839. Son of William Brown of Horton Manor, Epsom. He entered Radley in 1850 and left in 1852. He attended Royal Military Academy, Woolwich, in 1854, being awarded the Sword of Honour in 1856 (the first Radleian to achieve this honour). He served in the Royal Artillery from 1857-67. He was present at the relief, siege and capture of Lucknow, was wounded three times and mentioned in despatches. He retired from the army when he succeeded to his family’s estates in 1885. In 1886 he married Constance Feeney. He died at Batheaston, Somerset on 21st July 1907”
He also added:
“It is generally thought that William S Trotter sold the estate to the LCC but, as a paper http://www.epsomandewellhistoryexplorer.org.uk/Hos...tml shows the vendor had been Sir Thomas Buxton. William Sampson Trotter inherited the property in 1885 and, it would seem, had the mansion re-built to the design of Sir Gilbert Scott. He may have got into financial difficulties because a sale was announced as early as 17/5/1890 and the furniture disposed off in 1892: an auction ‘by order of mortgagees’ came to be advertised in 1893 and my assumption is that would have been when the premises were acquired by Sir Thomas Buxton. Kelly’s Directory shows William Sampson Trotter in occupation during 1890 (and still in 1895 but I think that incorrect)”
I think that Sir Thomas Buxton may have acquired some other part of the original manor and which might well have got into disrepair.
Will notes for William Sampson Trotter (born BROWN)
Will proved 24 Aug 1907 to Constance Selina Trotter, left c. £4k.
Mon Inscripts notes for William Sampson Trotter (born BROWN)
In Christ Church, West Epsom there is this memorial on the rood screen:
“to the memory of / William Sampson Trotter / late of Horton Manor Epsom / this screen is erected by his wife son and daughter C.S.T. J.F.A.T. E.C.B.T
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“to the memory of / William Sampson Trotter / late of Horton Manor Epsom / this screen is erected by his wife son and daughter C.S.T. J.F.A.T. E.C.B.T
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Arms Generally notes for William Sampson Trotter (born BROWN)
Quarterly
1st & 4th: Argent, a crescent gules, on a chief indented azure three mullets pierced of the field. TROTTER.
2nd & 3rd: Azure, a chevron chequy argent and sable between three fleurs-de-lis of the second. BROWN
Crests:
1st: A horse, trotting argent. TROTTER
2nd: A lion rampant gules, holding in his dexter fore-paw a fleur-de-lis argent. BROWN
Mottoes:
Over the crest of TROTTER: Festina lente
Over the crest of BROWN: Fortitudine et fidelitate.
1st & 4th: Argent, a crescent gules, on a chief indented azure three mullets pierced of the field. TROTTER.
2nd & 3rd: Azure, a chevron chequy argent and sable between three fleurs-de-lis of the second. BROWN
Crests:
1st: A horse, trotting argent. TROTTER
2nd: A lion rampant gules, holding in his dexter fore-paw a fleur-de-lis argent. BROWN
Mottoes:
Over the crest of TROTTER: Festina lente
Over the crest of BROWN: Fortitudine et fidelitate.
Notes for William Sampson & Constance Selina (Family)
On their marriage certificate No 139 of 1886 at All Saints church, Cheltenham, he was William Sampson Trotter, 46, a bachelor and gentleman of Horton Manor, Epsom, son of William Trotter, gentleman. She was Constance Selina Feeney, 27 and a spinster of Pittville House, Cheltenham, dau. of John Frederick Feeney (deceased from the 1881 census), Gentleman.
The witnesses were Frederick Feeney [her brother?], Harriet A Trotter [his sister] P. M. Feeney [?] and Grace Feeney.
The marriage was by licence = (poss) more information.
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The witnesses were Frederick Feeney [her brother?], Harriet A Trotter [his sister] P. M. Feeney [?] and Grace Feeney.
The marriage was by licence = (poss) more information.
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