Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
NameKatherine Marney 
[107, Vol 2, p.7], [135, p.357], [56, Essex of 1558, pub Harleian 1878, Parker, p. 87], [56, Essex of 1634, pub Harleian 1878, Bonham p. 352]
[107, Vol 2, p.7], [135, p.357], [56, Essex of 1558, pub Harleian 1878, Parker, p. 87], [56, Essex of 1634, pub Harleian 1878, Bonham p. 352]GeneralAmost certainly eventual co-heir in her issue to her brother John, Lord Marney. [107, Vol 2, p.7]
FatherHenry Marney Lord Marny (ca1457-1523)
MotherThomasine Arundell
Spouses
Notes for Katherine Marney
The Barrington Family History thought she was heir to her father.
But she had a brother John who was indeed the last Lord Marney, though he had two daughters. The eldest Katherine, while marrying twice, definitely had no children and died in 1547. The younger, Elizabeth thus became the evntual sole heir; she married Thos Howard, first Viscount Howard of Binden and had two sons by him, successively viscounts; the elder son, Henry, had a daughter, Doughlas, who had a daughter Ambrosia who died unmarried in 1606; the younger son, Thomas dsp. The question then is whether Elizabeth Marney had any daughters who would then be heir, and her father's, heirs and thus also the heirs to Katherine Marney's father Henry. CP does not mention any such daughters.
Moving on to Burke's Extinct Peers, he lists the following children of Elizabeth Marney and Thomas Howard:
Henry, his heir
Thomas, who s. his brother
Francis } both d. young
Giles }
Elizabeth, d. unm.
Grace, m. John, son and heir of Sir John Horsey of Clifton, Co Dorset, but dsp.
Burke also mentions in the article for the extinct Marny peerage that Katherine married Thomas Bonham.
It sounds almost certain that Katherine was an eventual co-heir, possibly in her daughter's issue, the Barringtons. Her co-heir was her half sister to her father by his second wife; this half sister married Sir Henry Bedingfeld but I do not know if they had any issue. Feb 2002: They did: see Burke's Peerage of 1885 for the Paston-Bedingfelds where they are the main Bedingfeld line.
Berry's Essex Pedigrees, printed with the Essex visitations of 1552, 1558, 1612 and 1634, shows a similar expiry of the Marney line. But it also shows a very different ourcome for the Bonham line.
But she had a brother John who was indeed the last Lord Marney, though he had two daughters. The eldest Katherine, while marrying twice, definitely had no children and died in 1547. The younger, Elizabeth thus became the evntual sole heir; she married Thos Howard, first Viscount Howard of Binden and had two sons by him, successively viscounts; the elder son, Henry, had a daughter, Doughlas, who had a daughter Ambrosia who died unmarried in 1606; the younger son, Thomas dsp. The question then is whether Elizabeth Marney had any daughters who would then be heir, and her father's, heirs and thus also the heirs to Katherine Marney's father Henry. CP does not mention any such daughters.
Moving on to Burke's Extinct Peers, he lists the following children of Elizabeth Marney and Thomas Howard:
Henry, his heir
Thomas, who s. his brother
Francis } both d. young
Giles }
Elizabeth, d. unm.
Grace, m. John, son and heir of Sir John Horsey of Clifton, Co Dorset, but dsp.
Burke also mentions in the article for the extinct Marny peerage that Katherine married Thomas Bonham.
It sounds almost certain that Katherine was an eventual co-heir, possibly in her daughter's issue, the Barringtons. Her co-heir was her half sister to her father by his second wife; this half sister married Sir Henry Bedingfeld but I do not know if they had any issue. Feb 2002: They did: see Burke's Peerage of 1885 for the Paston-Bedingfelds where they are the main Bedingfeld line.
Berry's Essex Pedigrees, printed with the Essex visitations of 1552, 1558, 1612 and 1634, shows a similar expiry of the Marney line. But it also shows a very different ourcome for the Bonham line.