NameJames Geoffrey Powys Drummond [3, Birth, Q3 of 1889, Eastbourne dist, vol 2B, p. 78], [4, 1891 ref: RG12, piece 774, folio 39, p. 12], [4, 1939 ref: RG101/1643C/008/12], [3, Death, Q4 of 1966, Watford dist, vol 4B, p. 378]
Birth27 Jul 1889, Eastbourne, Sussex
Death5 Dec 1966, 158 Pinner Road Watford Hertfordshire
General3rd s. In 1939: Major Indian Army (Retired).
Spouses
Marriageca May 1929, Aylesbury district, Bucks
Notes for James Geoffrey Powys Drummond
His birth index:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
DRUMMOND, JAMES GEOFFREY POWYS FAIRBROTHER
GRO Reference: 1889 S Quarter in EASTBOURNE Volume 02B Page 78
His birth date is known from a form of his father’s Indian pay records.
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In 1939 he, with the same birth date as on his father Indian military record, was with his apparent wife and three sons, at 156 Pinner Road, Watford, Herts:
Marital Schedule
First name(s) Last name(s) Birth date Sex Occupation status Main Sun
James G P Drummond 27 Jul 1889 M Major Indian Army (Retired) M 94 1
Elsie Drummond 25 Jan 1896 F Unpaid Domestic Duties M 94 2
John A G Drummond 24 Sep 1930 M At School S 94 3
James M Drummond 16 May 1933 M At School S 94 4
David A Drummond 27 Oct 1936 M Under School Age S 94 5
Margaret Schrodir 21 May 1867 F School Reacher (Retired) S 94 6
1939 ref: RG101/1643C/008/12
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Three children above can be half found in the birth indices:
1. John A G Drummond:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
DRUMMOND, JOHN ALEXANDER GIRAULT TAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1930 M Quarter in ST. PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 58
But note that this birth is registered six months before the birth date given in 1939 and that the mother’s maiden name is given as Taylor.
However there is the birth of a John B G Drummond with a Matheson mother in 1930, curiously only available on FreeBMD and FindMYpast but not on the online GRO index:James Michael
Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Dec 1930 (>99%)
Drummond John B G Matheson Aylesbury 3a 1589
So this is the registration index to use and send a correction to the online GRO. (Done.)
2. James M Drummond:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
DRUMMOND, JAMES MICHAEL MATHESON
GRO Reference: 1933 J Quarter in HAMPSTEAD Volume 01A Page 738
This birth registration agrees with the 1939 birth date.
3. David A Drummond:
No record on the online GRO index as it does not include 1936 yet, so from FreeBMD:
Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Dec 1936 (>99%)
DRUMMOND David A Matheson Battle 2b 48
This birth registration agrees with the 1939 birth date.
A search on FindMyPast for all Drummond births with a Matheson mother from 1929 to 1949 produces the same three registrations:
Last name First name(s) Year Of Birth Location
Drummond John B G 1930 Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire
Drummond James M 1933 Hampstead, London
Drummond David A 1936 Battle, Sussex
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His death index:
First name(s) James G P
Last name Drummond
Gender Male
Birth year 1889
Age 77
Death quarter 4
Death year 1966
District Watford
County Hertfordshire
Volume 4B
Page 378
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
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Will notes for James Geoffrey Powys Drummond
His probate index:
1967
DRUMMOND James Geoffrey Powys of 158 Pinner Road Watford Hertfordshire died 5 December 1955 Probate London 9 January to Elsie Drummond widow £3654.
Will ordered.
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Notes for James Geoffrey Powys & ‘Elsie’ Ilse (Family)
Their marriage index:
First name(s) James G P
Last name Drummond
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1929
Marriage Finder James G P Drummond married one of these people
Ilse Matheson
Spouse's last name Parriss Or Matheson
District Aylesbury
County Buckinghamshire
Country England
Volume 3A
Page number 2314
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
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Her last name of ‘Parriss Or Matheson’ needs looking into. FreeBMD usually has the best information. But no hint on FreeBMD, merely that two surnames were given at marriage.
I have searched FindMyPast for any other entry in any record for both Ilse Matheson and Ilse Parriss with a birth date of 1896±1 year anywhere in FMP’s world records; again only her marriage is on record.
Ancestry is slightly better in that it has an Ilse Forge Matheson in the 1911 census of Canada for Nova Scotia. But a record for a Ilse Parriss, wife of John Westwood Parriss who was on Territorial Army records from 14.10.145 to 12.5.16 and they had a home address in Bushey, Herts.
John had enlisted for the Inns of Court O.T.C. and took thee oath in 10 Stone Buildings, Lincoln’s Inn, London. He was discharged on 12 May 1916 as ’not being likely to become and efficient soldier (on medical grounds). He was recorded as being a chartered accountant and their address was: Charteris, Maryhill Road, Bushey Herts & New Zealand(?). He had 213 days of military service and was discharged on 17th May 1916. In 1917 he was given a ‘War Badge and Ceertificate’ which he received at 22 St Albans Crescent, Bournemouth. In April 1916 he was admitted to hospital in Aylesbury with Pulmonary Tuberculosis; he stated he had had a previous attack in 1910 and the new illness was the cause of his discharge. He was born around 1890.
He was baptised on 8th July at Christ Church Brondesbury, Brent. His was was recorded to be 5th October 1887. His parents were John William and Selina Parriss; his father was a Gent. They lived at Adagh(?). His birth was registered in Hendon district in Q4 of 1887.
In Q4 of 1913 John W Parriss married Ilse Hoegerstaedt in Hendon district. There were other marriages of John W Parris but no other to an Ilse.
In 1921 a John Westwood Parriss was in Hendon in a large household. I have not bought this yet.
No death found for him.
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In 1921 no sign of Ilse Parriss or Hoegerstaedt or Matheson in England.
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