Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
NameBeatrix Helen Constance Pakenham 
[3, Birth, Q1 of 1910, St Marylebone dist, vol 1A, p. 435], [3, Marriage, Q3 of 1929, Paddington dist, vol 1A, p. 82], [62, 107th edn, pub 2003, Stopford article, vol 1, p. 924], [3, 1939 ref: RG101/0632C/014/40], [4, Death, Q3 of 1990, Westminster dist, vol 15, p. 1403]
[3, Birth, Q1 of 1910, St Marylebone dist, vol 1A, p. 435], [3, Marriage, Q3 of 1929, Paddington dist, vol 1A, p. 82], [62, 107th edn, pub 2003, Stopford article, vol 1, p. 924], [3, 1939 ref: RG101/0632C/014/40], [4, Death, Q3 of 1990, Westminster dist, vol 15, p. 1403]Birth3 Jan 1910, London
Death3 Aug 1990, 3A Holland Pk Rd, London W14
General2nd dau.
Spouses
1Hon. Col. Nigel Victor Stopford Sackville CBE, TD [3, Birth, Q1 of 1901, Tunbridge dist, Vol 02A, p. 790], [4, 1901 ref: RG1§1, piece 760, folio 153, p. 11], [3, Death, Q4 of 1972, Thrapston dist, vol 3B, p. 1903], [62, 107th edn, pub 2003, Stopford article, vol 1, p. 924]
[3, Birth, Q1 of 1901, Tunbridge dist, Vol 02A, p. 790], [4, 1901 ref: RG1§1, piece 760, folio 153, p. 11], [3, Death, Q4 of 1972, Thrapston dist, vol 3B, p. 1903], [62, 107th edn, pub 2003, Stopford article, vol 1, p. 924]FatherCol Lionel Richard Stopford Sackville (1845-1905)
MotherConstance Evelyn Gosling (1863-1945)
Marriageca Aug 1929, Paddington district, London [3, Marriage, Q3 of 1929, Paddington dist, vol 1A, p. 82], [62, 107th edn, pub 2003, Stopford article, vol 1, p. 924]
Divorce1943
ChildrenVenetia Mary (1930-2005)
Lionel Geoffrey (1932-2013)
Notes for Beatrix Helen Constance Pakenham
This might be her birth index, but needs confirmation from a census or two:
First name(s) Cythia Hume B
Sex Unknown
Last name Pakenham
Birth year 1901-05
Organisation Consular/Overseas
Country Japan
Place Kobe
Page 1757
Archive General Register Office
Record's year range 1901-1905
Volume 11
Line number 24
Archive reference BCON
Source Gro Consular Birth Indices (1849 To 1965)
Record set British Armed Forces And Overseas Births And Baptisms
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In 1901, she was a one-year-old with her elder sister with no parents to be seen but an army of staff at 40 Devonshire Place W, St Marylebone, London:
First name(s) Last name Connection Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joan Pakenham - - F 7 1904 - Middlesex London
Beatrix Pakenham Daur - F 1 1910 - Middlesex London
Frederick Misselbrook Serv S M 37 1874 Butler Hunsley Hampshire
William Stilwell Serv S M 20 1891 Footman Firmley Surrey
Lily Winfield Serv S F 24 1887 Children's nurse Middlesex London
Lydia Davidson Serv S F 18 1893 Childrnes nurse Middlesex London
Jessie Holder Serv S F 19 1892 Housemaid Surrey London
Florrie Baillie Serv S F 20 1891 Kitchenmaid Swanley Kent
Alice Eggleton Serv S F 26 1885 Housemaid Cirencester Gloucester
Annie Howell Serv S F 31 1880 Cook Liphook Hants
John Starr Serv S M 18 1893 Footman Frome Somerset
1911 ref: RG14PN515 RG78PN18 RD7 SD1 ED1 SN47
The form was signed by the butler. I get the impression that each of the staff entered their own name.
Note that this record says that Beatrix was born in 1910 in London, so the above brith record for Japan has to be rubbish.
But what does 1939 say?
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In 1939 she was staying at 29-41 Green Park Hotel Half Moon Street, Mayfair, City of Westminster, London:
First name(s) Beatrice
Last name(s) Stopford-Sackville
DOB 03 Jan 1910
Birth day 3
Birth month 1
Birth year 1910
Sex Female
Marital status Married
Occupation Unpaid Domestic Duties
Address 29-41 Green Park Hotel Half Moon Street, Mayfair, City Of Westminster
Place City of Westminster
E. D. letter code AYNI
Schedule 154
Schedule Sub Number 59
Borough / District City of Westminster
County London
Country England
Archive reference RG101/0632C/014/40
Piece number 0632C
Item number 14
Line number 40
Category Census, land & surveys
The birth date confirms the 1911 census and that the above birth record MUST be ignored.
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BP records for her in the Longford article that her mother was Lilian Blanche Georgiana Ashley and for Beatrix “Beatrix Helen Constance; b 3 Jan 1910; m 17 July 1929 (divorce 1943) Lt-Col Nigel Victor Stopford Sackville, and has issue (see COURTOWN, E)”
This clearly indicates that her birth index was:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
PAKENHAM, - ASHLEY
GRO Reference: 1910 M Quarter in ST MARYLEBONE Volume 01A Page 435
She had only one, elder, brother and one, elder, sister.
She was a gt-gt-granddaughter of the 2nd baron Longford and thus rather remotely related to the Pakenhams who have Powys ancestry.
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The death index record from FindMyPast confirms her birth date but for brevity here is the GRO record only:
Name: Year of Birth:
SACKVILLE, BEATRIX HELEN C S 1910
GRO Reference: DOR Q3/1990 in WESTMINSTER (2581B) Volume 15 Page 1403
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First name(s) Cythia Hume B
Sex Unknown
Last name Pakenham
Birth year 1901-05
Organisation Consular/Overseas
Country Japan
Place Kobe
Page 1757
Archive General Register Office
Record's year range 1901-1905
Volume 11
Line number 24
Archive reference BCON
Source Gro Consular Birth Indices (1849 To 1965)
Record set British Armed Forces And Overseas Births And Baptisms
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In 1901, she was a one-year-old with her elder sister with no parents to be seen but an army of staff at 40 Devonshire Place W, St Marylebone, London:
First name(s) Last name Connection Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joan Pakenham - - F 7 1904 - Middlesex London
Beatrix Pakenham Daur - F 1 1910 - Middlesex London
Frederick Misselbrook Serv S M 37 1874 Butler Hunsley Hampshire
William Stilwell Serv S M 20 1891 Footman Firmley Surrey
Lily Winfield Serv S F 24 1887 Children's nurse Middlesex London
Lydia Davidson Serv S F 18 1893 Childrnes nurse Middlesex London
Jessie Holder Serv S F 19 1892 Housemaid Surrey London
Florrie Baillie Serv S F 20 1891 Kitchenmaid Swanley Kent
Alice Eggleton Serv S F 26 1885 Housemaid Cirencester Gloucester
Annie Howell Serv S F 31 1880 Cook Liphook Hants
John Starr Serv S M 18 1893 Footman Frome Somerset
1911 ref: RG14PN515 RG78PN18 RD7 SD1 ED1 SN47
The form was signed by the butler. I get the impression that each of the staff entered their own name.
Note that this record says that Beatrix was born in 1910 in London, so the above brith record for Japan has to be rubbish.
But what does 1939 say?
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In 1939 she was staying at 29-41 Green Park Hotel Half Moon Street, Mayfair, City of Westminster, London:
First name(s) Beatrice
Last name(s) Stopford-Sackville
DOB 03 Jan 1910
Birth day 3
Birth month 1
Birth year 1910
Sex Female
Marital status Married
Occupation Unpaid Domestic Duties
Address 29-41 Green Park Hotel Half Moon Street, Mayfair, City Of Westminster
Place City of Westminster
E. D. letter code AYNI
Schedule 154
Schedule Sub Number 59
Borough / District City of Westminster
County London
Country England
Archive reference RG101/0632C/014/40
Piece number 0632C
Item number 14
Line number 40
Category Census, land & surveys
The birth date confirms the 1911 census and that the above birth record MUST be ignored.
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BP records for her in the Longford article that her mother was Lilian Blanche Georgiana Ashley and for Beatrix “Beatrix Helen Constance; b 3 Jan 1910; m 17 July 1929 (divorce 1943) Lt-Col Nigel Victor Stopford Sackville, and has issue (see COURTOWN, E)”
This clearly indicates that her birth index was:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
PAKENHAM, - ASHLEY
GRO Reference: 1910 M Quarter in ST MARYLEBONE Volume 01A Page 435
She had only one, elder, brother and one, elder, sister.
She was a gt-gt-granddaughter of the 2nd baron Longford and thus rather remotely related to the Pakenhams who have Powys ancestry.
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The death index record from FindMyPast confirms her birth date but for brevity here is the GRO record only:
Name: Year of Birth:
SACKVILLE, BEATRIX HELEN C S 1910
GRO Reference: DOR Q3/1990 in WESTMINSTER (2581B) Volume 15 Page 1403
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Will notes for Beatrix Helen Constance Pakenham
Her probate index:
1990
SACKVILLE, Beatrix Helen Constance STOPFORD- of 3A Holland Pk Rd London W14 died 3 August 1990 Probate London 14 September £616995 9051128100U
Will ordered in the hope that she mentions a grandchild or two.
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Her will was delivered on 11 Nov and was dated 21 Jun 1986. In it she appointed her son Lionel Geoffrey Stopford-Sackville and her daughter Venetia Mary Talbot as her executors.
She also listed:
1. Her grand-daughter Camilla Stopford-Sackville
2. Thomas Stopford-Sackville (‘the said’ - who?)
3. Her grandchildren:
(a) Charles Stopford-Sackville
(b) Lucinda Stopford-Sackville
(c) Thomas Stopford-Sackville ( Same as ‘the said’?)
(d) Simon Talbot
(e) Venetia Jennings
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Unremarkably I had failed to investigage LIonel Geoffrey’s family, though I had done Venetia’s, so this was a welcome fillip to do Lionel’s.
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1990
SACKVILLE, Beatrix Helen Constance STOPFORD- of 3A Holland Pk Rd London W14 died 3 August 1990 Probate London 14 September £616995 9051128100U
Will ordered in the hope that she mentions a grandchild or two.
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Her will was delivered on 11 Nov and was dated 21 Jun 1986. In it she appointed her son Lionel Geoffrey Stopford-Sackville and her daughter Venetia Mary Talbot as her executors.
She also listed:
1. Her grand-daughter Camilla Stopford-Sackville
2. Thomas Stopford-Sackville (‘the said’ - who?)
3. Her grandchildren:
(a) Charles Stopford-Sackville
(b) Lucinda Stopford-Sackville
(c) Thomas Stopford-Sackville ( Same as ‘the said’?)
(d) Simon Talbot
(e) Venetia Jennings
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Unremarkably I had failed to investigage LIonel Geoffrey’s family, though I had done Venetia’s, so this was a welcome fillip to do Lionel’s.
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Notes for Nigel Victor & Beatrix Helen Constance (Family)
Their marriage index:
First name(s) Nigel V S
Last name Sackville
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1929
Marriage Finder Nigel V S Sackville married one of these people
Beatrix H C Pakenham
Spouse's last name Pakenham
District Paddington
County London
Country England
Volume 1A
Page number 82
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
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First name(s) Nigel V S
Last name Sackville
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1929
Marriage Finder Nigel V S Sackville married one of these people
Beatrix H C Pakenham
Spouse's last name Pakenham
District Paddington
County London
Country England
Volume 1A
Page number 82
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
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