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Birthca Nov 1862, Church Stretton, Shropshire
Death22 Feb 1926, Heatherton-lane, Cannock, Staffordshire
GeneralBoatbuilder, then cabinet maker, later tobacconist.
FatherEdward Keight (1836-ca1910)
MotherElizabeth Lewis (ca1836-ca1879)
Spouses
Marriageca Feb 1883, Atcham disrict, Shropshire [3, Marriage, Q1 of 1883, Atcham dist, vol 6A, p. 915]
ChildrenWilliam George (ca1884-~1968)
 Martha Elizabeth (ca1885-1950)
 Samuel Edward (ca1887-1958)
 Sarah Florence (ca1889-ca1890)
 Sarah Beatrice (ca1891-ca1891)
 Edward Lewis (ca1892-ca1892)
 Rose (ca1893-1977)
 Alfred (ca1896-)
 Nellie (1898-ca1957)
 Emily Katherine (1900-)
 John Kerr (1902-ca1981)
 Dorothy Alice (ca1905-ca1905)
Notes for Edward Lewis Keight
His birth index:

Name:                   Mother's Maiden Surname:
KEIGHT, EDWARD LEWIS    LEWIS  
GRO Reference: 1862  D Quarter in CHURCH STRETTON UNION  Volume 06A  Page 542
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No entry found for him in 1871 census.
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But he is in the 1881 census with his widowed father at 28, Roushill, Shrewsbury St Chad, Atcham, Shropshire:

First name(s)  Last name  Relationship  Marital status  Sex  Age  Birth year  Occupation  Birth place
Edward    Keight  Head  W  M  45  1836  Innkeeper         Shropshire
Edward L  Keight  Son   S  M  18  1863  Boat builder      Shropshire
William   Keight  Son   S  M  16  1865  Assistant (inns)  Shropshire

Ref:
Archive reference  RG11
Piece number       2653
Folio              39
Page               9
Combined:          1881 ref: RG11, piece 2653, Folio 39, p. 9
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In 1891 he was with his wife and burgeoning family at Church Street, Cannock, Staffordshire:

First name(s)  Last name  Relationship  Marital status  Sex  Age  Birth year  Occupation  Birth place
Edward L   Keight  Head  M  M  28  1863  Tobacconist  Church Stretton, Shropshire, England
Sarah      Keight  Wife  M  F  30  1861  -            Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
William G  Keight  Son   -  M   7  1884  -            Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Martha E   Keight  Daur  -  F   5  1886  -            Derby
Samuel E   Keight  Son   -  M   3  1888  -            Cannock, Staffordshire, England
Sarah B    Keight  Daur  -  F   0  1891  -            Cannock, Staffordshire

Ref:
Archive reference  RG12
Piece number       2219
Folio              58
Page               4
Combined:          1891 ref: RG12, piece 2219, folio 58, p. 4
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Their children are listed in the 1901 and 1911 censuses, see their daughter Millie for details.

And this is the baptisms, from the Staffordshire baptisms data set, of the Keight children with a Jones mother’s maiden name from 1883 to 1923:

                             Birth  Baptism    Father's       Mother's
First name(s)     Last name  year    year    first name(s)  first name(s)  Baptism place

Martha Elizabeth  Keight     —       1887    Edward Lewis   Sarah          Cannock, St Luke
Samuel Edward     Keight     —       1887    Edward Lewis   Sarah          Cannock, St Luke
Sarah Florence    Keight     —       1889    Edward Lewis   Sarah          Cannock, St Luke
Sarah Beatrice    Keight     —       1891    Edward Lewis   Sarah          Cannock, St Luke
Edward Lewis      Keight     —       1892    Edward Lewis   Sarah          Cannock, St Luke
Rose              Keight     —       1893    Edward Lewis   Sarah          Cannock, St Luke
Alfred            Keight     —       1896    Edward Lewis   Sarah          Cannock, St Luke
Nelly             Keight     —       1898    Edward Lewis   Sarah          Cannock, St Luke
Emily Catharine   Keight     —       1900    Edward Lewis   Sarah          Cannock, St Luke

To this must be added a first son and a last son found in the censuses:

Edward George Keight, mother=Jones, born Q1 of 1884, Atcham disc, Salop
John Kerr Keight, mother=Jones, born Q.. of 1901, Cannock dist, Staffs

This makes 11 children. Sarah, their mother, reported it to have been 12 of whom four had died by 1911 and 7 were still with her.

There was a Henry William born in 1883 in Birmingham,
There was an Edith born in 1886 in Birmingham (sounds like a separate family)
There was a Dorothy Alice born in 1905 in Cannock - this makes the 12.

So the order is:
                                Birth   Death   At home in 1911    Later name

1. Williamd George   Keight     1884                Y
2. Martha Elizabeth  Keight     1887                Y
3. Samuel Edward     Keight     1887                N
4. Sarah Florence    Keight     1889                N
5. Sarah Beatrice    Keight     1891                N
6. Edward Lewis      Keight     1892                N
7. Rose              Keight     1893                Y
8. Alfred            Keight     1896                Y           Fred then Frederick
9. Nelly             Keight     1898                Y           Nellie
10. Emily Catharine   Keight     1900                Y
11. John Kerr         Keight     1900                Y
12. Dorothy Alice     Keight     1905    1905        N
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Will notes for Edward Lewis Keight
His probate index:

1926
Keight Edward lewis of Heatherton-lane Cannock Staffordshire died 22 February 1926 at the Informary Cannock  Probate Lichfield 29 June to Alphonso Stanley insurance agent and Ernest Alfred Orton solicitor’s clerk.  Effects £1113 14s. 9d.
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Notes for Edward Lewis & Sarah (Family)
Originally I had mistakenly given the mother of Nellie Keight to be Sarah Probin as there was indeed a birth of a Sarah Keight with a mother’s maiden name of Probin in 1896, not a million miles away from 1898 birth date given in the 1939 census.

This error was given credence because at all censuses for the family and in her death certificate Nelly Keight (and with a married name of Eccleston) always had her named spelled as Nellie.

I could not make sense of the family as I could not find the marriage of Sarah Probin and Edward Keight.  No such marriage existed.  So I made a list of the maiden names of the mother given inf the birth index entries for all the children in the 1901 and 1911 censues for Edward and Sarah Keight of Cannock:

First name(s)  Last name   Rel  Marital status  Sex  Age  Birth year  Occ  Birth place          Mother
William G  Keight  Son       S  M  17  1884  Hairdresser                Shrewsbury, Shropshire  Jones
Martha E   Keight  Daughter  S  F  15  1886  Dressmaker                 Derby, Derbyshire       Jones
Samuel E   Keight  Son       S  M  13  1888  -                          Cannock, Staffordshire  Jones
Rose       Keight  Daughter  -  F   7  1894  -                          Cannock, Staffordshire  Jones
Fred       Keight  Son       -  M   5  1896  -                          Cannock, Staffordshire  Jones
Nellie     Keight  Daughter  -  F   2  1899  -                          Cannock, Staffordshire  Probin
Emily K    Keight  Daughter  -  F   0  1901  -                          Cannock, Staffordshire  Jones
John Kenn  Keight  Son       -  M   9  1902  School                     Staffs Cannock          Jones

So this was really very odd indeed, and I was inventing social situations to account for this.

Then I got back to the birth year of Nellie Keight which is clearly 1898, or 1899 with a  rounding error, in the censuses  No census gave a birth date of 1886 which was the birth to Sarah née Probin Keight.  

I found there had been a marriage between Edward Keight and Sarah Jones in Atcham, Shropshire in 1883.

I then tried a search for a daughter born in 1897 to 1899 to a couple of Knight and Jones.  This produced a registered birth of a Nelly Keight in Cannock where they had been living and not in Birmingham where Nellie Keight was born in 1896.  The 1898 birth is on both the old printed indices and the new GRO indices as ’Nelly’; I wonder if that confusion was called by the registrar mishearing the name the mother had told her, for is was Sarah the mother who registered this birth?

Anyhow this resolved the problem: the birth in 1898 was registered as Nelly Keight for the person who in all subsequent docuemnts had her name written as Nellie.  And Nellie’s mother was, indiputably, Sarh Jones.  And the marriage index record is:

First name(s)     Edward Lewis
Last name         Keight
Marriage quarter  1
Marriage year     1883
MarriageFinder    Edward Lewis Keight married one of these people
                  Sarah Jones
District          Atcham
County            Shropshire
Country           England
Volume            6A
Page number       915
Record set        England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

Eagle-eyed observers will have noticed that Edward used the second name of Lewis also in the 1911 census.
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