Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
Birth24 Oct 1900, Fordingbridge, Hants
Death21 Jun 1983, Ringwood & Fordingbridge district, Hants
GeneralOnly child.
FatherLt Col Henry Powys Greenwood (ca1860-ca1939)
MotherEvelyn Custance (ca1864-ca1949)
Notes for Henry Powys Greenwood
His easily recognisable birth index:

First name(s) HENRY POWYS
Last name GREENWOOD
Birth year 1900
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District FORDINGBRIDGE
County Hampshire
Country England
Volume 2B
Page 624
Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006
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In 1901 he was 5 months old and was at home with his mother, his father being absent, possibly on military matters:

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status  Gender  Age  Birth year  Occupation  Birth place

Evelyn Greenwood Head Married Female 37 1864 Living On Own Means  Fordingbridge, Hampshire
Henry Powys Greenwood Son Single Male 0 1901 -  Fordingbridge, Hampshire
Catherine Taunton Servant Single Female 43 1858  Nurse Domestic  Breamore, Hampshire
Emily E Wilton Servant Single Female 28 1873 Useful Maid Domestic  Somerton, Somerset
Bessie Bridle Servant Single Female 29 1872 Cook Domestic  Whitchurch, Dorset
Alice E Thorne Servant Single Female 19 1882 House Parlour Maid Domestic  Wimborne, Dorset
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In 1911 he was down as Harry Powis Greenwood, born in Salisbury, Wilts, aged 10 and a boarder at a achool at Durnford, Langton Matravers, Nr Wareham, Dorset.
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Not in 1939 Register.

Two Harry Powys Greenwood marriages:

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1918   (>99%)
Greenwood Harry P Hillyard Chorlton 8c 1451
Hillyard Maude V Greenwood Chorlton 8c 1451

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1926   (>99%)
Fraser Dorothy A B Greenwood Paddington 1a 211
Greenwood Harry P Scott Paddington 1a 211 Additional information available - click on Info button
Greenwood Harry P Fraser Paddington 1a 211 Additional information available - click on Info button
Macphee Barbara A Virgin Paddington 1a 211
Scott Dorothy A B Greenwood Paddington 1a 211
Virgin Henry G A Macphee Paddington 1a 211

I incline towards the second of these, if only because marriage of a male at 18 was a tad young.  The complication of the second is identifying any children as the mothers name is annotated with “Scott or Fraser for spouse name”.

Using Scott for the mother’s name gave no identifiable results.  But Fraser gave these two births that look worth following up, particularly the last as Fordinbridge is where Harry was both born and died.

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Sep 1927   (>99%)
Greenwood Hugh P Fraser Rochford 4a 1151
Births Mar 1930   (>99%)
Greenwood Rosemary P Fraser Fordingbridge 2b  986

On FreeBMD I can find no marriage for the former but a William S Leyland married the latter in Christchurch, Hants in 1950.  And the Leyland-Greenwood marriage produce three apparent offspring from 1953 to 1958.

On FindMyPast there are the same two infants but the former may have something to do with a marriage of a Hugh G P Greenwood in Christchurch district, Hants in Apr-Jun 1951 to an Eve S Duncan.

I think the first thing to do is to get the birth certificates for Hugh P and Rosemary P Greenwood.

The first answer: Hugh P Greenwood was the son of Harry Powys Greenwood, banker of 35 Altonar Strasse Berlin and Dorothy Annie Bunting Greenwood late Scott formerly Fraser.  So he is clearly a Powys descendant.

The seond answer is much the same, Rosemary P Greenwood was the daughter of Harry Powys Greenwood and Dorothy Annie Bunting Greenwood late Scott formerly Fraser.  So she also is clearly a Powys descendant.

The deduction from the above is that the mother had previously married a Scott and was born Fraser.
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His death index:

First name(s) HARRY POWYS
Last name GREENWOOD
Gender Male
Birth day 24
Birth month 10
Birth year 1900
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1983
District RINGWOOD & FORDINGBRIDGE
County Hampshire
Volume 20
Page 0957
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007

Confirmed by the probate index.
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In 1939 neither he nor his son Hugh were at home but his daughter Rosemary (a) was not redacted and (b) had her change of name to Leyland on marriage in 1951 noted on the master 1939 register:

Fraser Household (4 People)
Westmored Victoria Road , Ringwood and Fordingbridge R.D., Hampshire, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS  SCHEDULE  SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Rosemary (Powys) Leyland (Greenwood) 19 Dec 1929 Female  At School  Single  149  3
Rose Fraser 31 Oct 1865 Female Private Means Widowed  149  1  
Dorothy (A B) Greenwood 16 Nov 1891 Female Office Work (Under  Married  149  2
Louise Giegud 29 Sep 1903 Female Housekeeper (Paid)  Single  149  4
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Will notes for Henry Powys Greenwood
His probate index:

GREENWOOD Harry Powys of Brentwood Sandleheath Fordingbridge Hants died 21 June 1983 Probate Winchester 6 September £30476  833315501A
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Notes for Henry Powys & Dorothy Annie Bunting (Family)
Their marriage:

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1926   (>99%)
Fraser Dorothy A B Greenwood Paddington 1a 211
Greenwood Harry P Scott Paddington 1a 211 Additional information available - click on Info button
Greenwood Harry P Fraser Paddington 1a 211 Additional information available - click on Info button
Scott Dorothy A B Greenwood Paddington 1a 211

On both the birth certificates for their children is makes it clear that she was born Fraser and seems to have married previously a Scott.
Last Modified 5 Oct 2016Created 14 May 2022 by Tim Powys-Lybbe
Re-created by Tim Powys-Lybbe on 14 May 20220