Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
NameLewis Vinall 
[4, 1911 ref: RG14PN11148 RG78PN606 RD221 SD3 ED9 SN74], [4, Death, Q1 of 1940, Hailsham dist, vol 2b, p. 411]
[4, 1911 ref: RG14PN11148 RG78PN606 RD221 SD3 ED9 SN74], [4, Death, Q1 of 1940, Hailsham dist, vol 2b, p. 411]Birthca 1867, Peckham, London
Death20 Feb 1940, East Sussex County Mental Hospital, Hellingly, Sussex
GeneralA Capt in Glos Volunteer Regt in WW1.
Spouses
1Mabel Lybbe [4, 1881], [5, Marr cert No 63 for St John's Battersea, Surrey on 27 Jun 1885], [3, Death, Q1 of 1945, Hailshem dist, vol 2b, p. 165], [4, 1911 ref: RG14PN11148 RG78PN606 RD221 SD3 ED9 SN74], [249, Her entry at Osborn, Upper Dicker, Hailsham, Sussex.]
[4, 1881], [5, Marr cert No 63 for St John's Battersea, Surrey on 27 Jun 1885], [3, Death, Q1 of 1945, Hailshem dist, vol 2b, p. 165], [4, 1911 ref: RG14PN11148 RG78PN606 RD221 SD3 ED9 SN74], [249, Her entry at Osborn, Upper Dicker, Hailsham, Sussex.]FatherPhilip Lybbe Powys Lybbe (born POWYS) (1818-1897)
MotherFanny Worth (ca1836-1919)
Marriage23 Mar 1911, St Pancras Register Office, London [3, Marriage, Q1 of 1911, Pancras dist, vol 1b, p. 200], [5, Marriage No 5 of 1911 at St Pancras Register Office]
No Children
Notes for Lewis Vinall
The only birth for a Lewis Vinall in England and Wales is:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Mar 1878 (>99%)
Vinall Lewis Glazebrook Lewes 2b 183
The year of birth does not agree with with the 1911 census which gave a birth year of 1866/7 or his death registration which gave a birth in 1869. So it might just not be him. Or he might have been faking old to be nearer the age of his wife.
In the 1911 census there was a Lewis Glazebrook Vinall, solicitor who had also been in the 1901 census and thus could not be this Lewis Vinall.
If he was born in 1866 in Peckham, London, then like Mabel, it looks as if his birth was never registered.
There is no Lewis Vinall birth registered in Scotland from 1855 to 1880.
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At marriage he said he was 42 years old, a bachelor, of independent means, his father was William Vinall, deceased, also of independent means.
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His death:
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Mar 1940 (>99%)
VINALL Lewis 71 Hailsham 2b 411
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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Mar 1878 (>99%)
Vinall Lewis Glazebrook Lewes 2b 183
The year of birth does not agree with with the 1911 census which gave a birth year of 1866/7 or his death registration which gave a birth in 1869. So it might just not be him. Or he might have been faking old to be nearer the age of his wife.
In the 1911 census there was a Lewis Glazebrook Vinall, solicitor who had also been in the 1901 census and thus could not be this Lewis Vinall.
If he was born in 1866 in Peckham, London, then like Mabel, it looks as if his birth was never registered.
There is no Lewis Vinall birth registered in Scotland from 1855 to 1880.
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At marriage he said he was 42 years old, a bachelor, of independent means, his father was William Vinall, deceased, also of independent means.
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His death:
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Mar 1940 (>99%)
VINALL Lewis 71 Hailsham 2b 411
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Will notes for Lewis Vinall
The Probate Index has this entry for him:
VINALL Lewis of Osbornes Upper Dicker near Hailsham Sussex died 20 March 1940 at East Sussex County Mental Hospital Hellingly Sussex Probate Lewes 8 August to Mabell Vinall widow. Effects £1505 4s 1d.
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In the 1939 register he was an inmate at the mental home where he died and stated to be a retired army officer. The London Gazette offers that:
1. On 27 Jan 1917 he was a temp 2/Lt in Glos Volunteer regt.
2. On 14 Aug 1917 he was promoted within the Glos Regt from tempt 2/Lt to Lt.
3. On 11 March 1918, also within Glos Regt, he was promoted from temp Lt to temp Capt.
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His will added nothing: he merely left everything to Mabel, no mention of any blood relatives.
There is one detail to note, that Upper Dicker, their village, was reported to have been in Hellingly which is where his mental home was where he died; the phrasing in the probate was “Be it known that Lewis Vinall of Osbornes Upper Dicker near hailsham (in the will called Osbornes, Upper Dicker Hellingly) in the county of Sussex...” Dis Lewis or his solicitor cause this confusion? The will was dated 5 June 1923.
Hellingly and Upper Dicker are about two miles apart.
(But his solicitor is to be congratulated for such a short and simple will.)
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VINALL Lewis of Osbornes Upper Dicker near Hailsham Sussex died 20 March 1940 at East Sussex County Mental Hospital Hellingly Sussex Probate Lewes 8 August to Mabell Vinall widow. Effects £1505 4s 1d.
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In the 1939 register he was an inmate at the mental home where he died and stated to be a retired army officer. The London Gazette offers that:
1. On 27 Jan 1917 he was a temp 2/Lt in Glos Volunteer regt.
2. On 14 Aug 1917 he was promoted within the Glos Regt from tempt 2/Lt to Lt.
3. On 11 March 1918, also within Glos Regt, he was promoted from temp Lt to temp Capt.
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His will added nothing: he merely left everything to Mabel, no mention of any blood relatives.
There is one detail to note, that Upper Dicker, their village, was reported to have been in Hellingly which is where his mental home was where he died; the phrasing in the probate was “Be it known that Lewis Vinall of Osbornes Upper Dicker near hailsham (in the will called Osbornes, Upper Dicker Hellingly) in the county of Sussex...” Dis Lewis or his solicitor cause this confusion? The will was dated 5 June 1923.
Hellingly and Upper Dicker are about two miles apart.
(But his solicitor is to be congratulated for such a short and simple will.)
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Notes for Lewis & Mabel (Family)
By 1904 Mabel was known as Mabel Vinall as her mother Fanny Worth gave her this name in writing her will of 1904.
In the 1911 census they said they had been married for 14 years, making the start of their partnership to be around 1897.
Their marriage registration date:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1911 (>99%)
Bowker Mabel Pancras 1b 200
Vinall Lewis Pancras 1b 200
The certificate needs to be ordered...
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In the 1911 census they said they had been married for 14 years, making the start of their partnership to be around 1897.
Their marriage registration date:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1911 (>99%)
Bowker Mabel Pancras 1b 200
Vinall Lewis Pancras 1b 200
The certificate needs to be ordered...
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