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NameCaroline Alice Jane Leighton 
[3, Her birth, Q1 of 1856, I Wight dist, vol 2b, p. 485], [4, 1871 ref: RG10 Piece: 126 Folio: 6 Page: 4], [4, 1881 ref: RG11 Piece: 1077 Folio: 16 Page: 26], [4, 1901 ref: RG13 Piece: 110 Folio: 35 Page: 13], [13, Report of West v. West pub 17 Jan 1911]
[3, Her birth, Q1 of 1856, I Wight dist, vol 2b, p. 485], [4, 1871 ref: RG10 Piece: 126 Folio: 6 Page: 4], [4, 1881 ref: RG11 Piece: 1077 Folio: 16 Page: 26], [4, 1901 ref: RG13 Piece: 110 Folio: 35 Page: 13], [13, Report of West v. West pub 17 Jan 1911]Birthca Feb 1856, Isle of Wight, Hants
GeneralA lively social participant in the Cowes Yacht Squadron.
FatherFrancis Knyvett Leighton (ca1806-1881)
MotherCatherine St Leger (ca1819-)
Spouses
Marriageca Nov 1893, St George, Hanover Sq district, London [3, Their marriage, Q4 of 1893, St Geo Han Sq dist, vol 1a, p. 798]
Notes for Caroline Alice Jane Leighton
m. (1) (c.1880) Montague Cecil Brown, (2) Horace West.
Her name is a bit of a vatiable.
In her birth registration she was ‘unnamed’ Leighton.
In the 1871 census she was Alice Leighton.
In the 1881 census she was Caroline A J Brown.
In the 1892 divorce case she was Caroline Alice Jane Brown.
In 1993 at marriage to Horace West, she was ‘Caroline Alice J Broun, or Brown’.
In the 1901 census she was Alice West.
In the 1911 West v. West case she was Caroline Jane West.
It is not yet known what her maiden name was. The Broun or Brown at her second marriage may have been her first husband’s surname. (It was)
The TNA has this record of the case:
Records of the Supreme Court of Judicature and related courts
Division within J Records of the Family Division and predecessors
J 77 Court for Divorce and Matrimonial Causes, later Supreme Court of Judicature: Divorce and Matrimonial Causes Files
J 77/505 Described at item level
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Record Summary
Scope and content
Divorce Court File: 15381. Appellant: Caroline Alice Jane Brown. Respondent: Montague Cecil Brown. Type: Wife's petition [wx].
Covering dates 1892
Held by
The National Archives, Kew
Legal status Public Record(s)
Language English
This establishes that her name was Brown from her first marriage, but does not give her maiden name.
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For her first marriage, this is the only marriage of a Montague Brown in England and Wales between 1877 (when she was 17) and 1892 (her divorce year):
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1883 (>99%)
BROWN Montague Risbridge 4a 946
The Scots marriage indices have no marriage of any Montague Brown between these dates.
Nor can any such marriage be found in the indices of foreign marriages.
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Still on the search for her maiden name, these are the births of Caroline Alices in Middlesex from 1859 to 1860:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Jun 1859 (>99%)
CLARK Caroline Alice Mile End 1c 535
HASEMAN Caroline Alice Stepney 1c 477
Births Sep 1859 (>99%)
JAY Caroline Alice Bethnal Gn 1c 266
WARD Caroline Alice Pancras 1b 150
Births Dec 1859 (>99%)
LOFTING Caroline Alice Brentford 11a 35
MARRIAGE Caroline Alice Mile End 1c 584
MARRIAGE Caroline Alice Mile End 1c 584
SLACK Caroline Alice Kensington 1a 7
WING Caroline Alice Islington 1b 214
Births Jun 1860 (>99%)
Gadsion Caroline Alice Holborn 1b 549
SALKILED Caroline Alice St Giles 1b 369
Births Sep 1860 (>99%)
GODBER Caroline Alice Kensington 1a 93
Births Dec 1860 (>99%)
SMITH Caroline Alice Edgar Westminster 1a 303
Regrettably none of the above are caroline Alice jane.
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Finally her maiden name was found from the law report in the Times of 17th Jan 1911 where is was said that she was a daughter of Canon Leighton.
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In 1871 a Montague Cecil Brown, single and a cornet in the Hants Yeomanry, was staying with a Mr & Mrs Vincent in Whitchurch Hants. This looks like her first husband and if so she was married after 1871.
In 1861 he was a Lieut in the 15th Hussars, residing with his parents.
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Her possible birth:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Jun 1860 (>99%)
LEIGHTON Caroline Wolstanton 6b 92
Finally, her almost certain birth:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Mar 1856 (>99%)
LEIGHTON Female I Wight 2b 485
This approx year and place of birth are found both in the 1871 census when she was with her mother in London and in the 1881 census when she was with her first husband in Sussex.
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In 1881 she was with her first husband and had a brother and his wife staying with them:
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born
BROWN, Montague C Head Married M 41 1840 Captn.Hamshire Yeomanry Formerly Of 15th Hussars Exmouth, Devon
BROWN, Caroline A J Wife Married F 25 1856 Ryde, Isle of Wight, Hampshire
LEIGHTON, Charles A B K Brother In Law Married M 26 1855 Captain 23rd R. W. Fusiliers Ramsgate, Kent
LEIGHTON, Agatha G Sister In Law Married F 30 1851 Abbotston, Somerset
DEAL, Charles Servant Single M 33 1848 Servant (Butler) Barham, Kent
JAY, James Servant Single M 18 1863 Servant (Footman) London, Middlesex
BLACKELL, Sarah L Servant Widow F 46 1835 Professional Nurse London, Middlesex
TICKNER, Fanny Servant Single F 25 1856 Servant (Cook) Rudgewick, Sussex
HOAD, Rhoda Servant Single F 22 1859 Servant (Housemaid) Slaugham,
Sussex
ROBERTS, Mary Servant Single F 17 1864 Servant (Kitchenmaid) Iwerne Minster, Dorset
RG number: RG11 Piece: 1077 Folio: 16 Page: 26
Registration District: Brighton Sub District: Kemp Town
Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish: Brighton Municipal Borough:
Address: 76, Marine Parade, Brighton
County: Sussex
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The interesting thing about the 1881 census is that she is recorded with a different age by 4 years and a completely different birth location from that in the 1901 census. And I can find no record of her birth for any of these. Similarly I could find none for her brother Charles. I am beginning to be a little suspicious about Caronline, she may have been fabricating more than a little, particularly her father, the supposed Warden of All Souls.
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Either of these might have been her death:
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Dec 1935 (99%)
West Caroline A 74 Uxbridge 3a 89
Deaths Jun 1949 (>99%)
West Caroline A E 92 Bromley 5b 82
or she could have died abroad or survived longer than c.1950 (the current limit for this sort of query on FreeBMD).
Her name is a bit of a vatiable.
In her birth registration she was ‘unnamed’ Leighton.
In the 1871 census she was Alice Leighton.
In the 1881 census she was Caroline A J Brown.
In the 1892 divorce case she was Caroline Alice Jane Brown.
In 1993 at marriage to Horace West, she was ‘Caroline Alice J Broun, or Brown’.
In the 1901 census she was Alice West.
In the 1911 West v. West case she was Caroline Jane West.
It is not yet known what her maiden name was. The Broun or Brown at her second marriage may have been her first husband’s surname. (It was)
The TNA has this record of the case:
Records of the Supreme Court of Judicature and related courts
Division within J Records of the Family Division and predecessors
J 77 Court for Divorce and Matrimonial Causes, later Supreme Court of Judicature: Divorce and Matrimonial Causes Files
J 77/505 Described at item level
Top of page
Record Summary
Scope and content
Divorce Court File: 15381. Appellant: Caroline Alice Jane Brown. Respondent: Montague Cecil Brown. Type: Wife's petition [wx].
Covering dates 1892
Held by
The National Archives, Kew
Legal status Public Record(s)
Language English
This establishes that her name was Brown from her first marriage, but does not give her maiden name.
___________________
For her first marriage, this is the only marriage of a Montague Brown in England and Wales between 1877 (when she was 17) and 1892 (her divorce year):
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1883 (>99%)
BROWN Montague Risbridge 4a 946
The Scots marriage indices have no marriage of any Montague Brown between these dates.
Nor can any such marriage be found in the indices of foreign marriages.
________________
Still on the search for her maiden name, these are the births of Caroline Alices in Middlesex from 1859 to 1860:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Jun 1859 (>99%)
CLARK Caroline Alice Mile End 1c 535
HASEMAN Caroline Alice Stepney 1c 477
Births Sep 1859 (>99%)
JAY Caroline Alice Bethnal Gn 1c 266
WARD Caroline Alice Pancras 1b 150
Births Dec 1859 (>99%)
LOFTING Caroline Alice Brentford 11a 35
MARRIAGE Caroline Alice Mile End 1c 584
MARRIAGE Caroline Alice Mile End 1c 584
SLACK Caroline Alice Kensington 1a 7
WING Caroline Alice Islington 1b 214
Births Jun 1860 (>99%)
Gadsion Caroline Alice Holborn 1b 549
SALKILED Caroline Alice St Giles 1b 369
Births Sep 1860 (>99%)
GODBER Caroline Alice Kensington 1a 93
Births Dec 1860 (>99%)
SMITH Caroline Alice Edgar Westminster 1a 303
Regrettably none of the above are caroline Alice jane.
________________
Finally her maiden name was found from the law report in the Times of 17th Jan 1911 where is was said that she was a daughter of Canon Leighton.
________________
In 1871 a Montague Cecil Brown, single and a cornet in the Hants Yeomanry, was staying with a Mr & Mrs Vincent in Whitchurch Hants. This looks like her first husband and if so she was married after 1871.
In 1861 he was a Lieut in the 15th Hussars, residing with his parents.
________________
Her possible birth:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Jun 1860 (>99%)
LEIGHTON Caroline Wolstanton 6b 92
Finally, her almost certain birth:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Mar 1856 (>99%)
LEIGHTON Female I Wight 2b 485
This approx year and place of birth are found both in the 1871 census when she was with her mother in London and in the 1881 census when she was with her first husband in Sussex.
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In 1881 she was with her first husband and had a brother and his wife staying with them:
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born
BROWN, Montague C Head Married M 41 1840 Captn.Hamshire Yeomanry Formerly Of 15th Hussars Exmouth, Devon
BROWN, Caroline A J Wife Married F 25 1856 Ryde, Isle of Wight, Hampshire
LEIGHTON, Charles A B K Brother In Law Married M 26 1855 Captain 23rd R. W. Fusiliers Ramsgate, Kent
LEIGHTON, Agatha G Sister In Law Married F 30 1851 Abbotston, Somerset
DEAL, Charles Servant Single M 33 1848 Servant (Butler) Barham, Kent
JAY, James Servant Single M 18 1863 Servant (Footman) London, Middlesex
BLACKELL, Sarah L Servant Widow F 46 1835 Professional Nurse London, Middlesex
TICKNER, Fanny Servant Single F 25 1856 Servant (Cook) Rudgewick, Sussex
HOAD, Rhoda Servant Single F 22 1859 Servant (Housemaid) Slaugham,
Sussex
ROBERTS, Mary Servant Single F 17 1864 Servant (Kitchenmaid) Iwerne Minster, Dorset
RG number: RG11 Piece: 1077 Folio: 16 Page: 26
Registration District: Brighton Sub District: Kemp Town
Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish: Brighton Municipal Borough:
Address: 76, Marine Parade, Brighton
County: Sussex
__________________
The interesting thing about the 1881 census is that she is recorded with a different age by 4 years and a completely different birth location from that in the 1901 census. And I can find no record of her birth for any of these. Similarly I could find none for her brother Charles. I am beginning to be a little suspicious about Caronline, she may have been fabricating more than a little, particularly her father, the supposed Warden of All Souls.
__________________
Either of these might have been her death:
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Dec 1935 (99%)
West Caroline A 74 Uxbridge 3a 89
Deaths Jun 1949 (>99%)
West Caroline A E 92 Bromley 5b 82
or she could have died abroad or survived longer than c.1950 (the current limit for this sort of query on FreeBMD).
Notes for Horace Charles George & Caroline Alice Jane (Family)
Their marriage:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1893 (>99%)
Bright Frederick George St. Geo.H. Sq 1a 798
Broun Caroline Alice J St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 798
Brown Caroline Alice J St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 798
Cockman Rosa St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 798
Cockman Rose St Geo H Sq 1a 798
West Horace Charles G St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 798
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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1893 (>99%)
Bright Frederick George St. Geo.H. Sq 1a 798
Broun Caroline Alice J St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 798
Brown Caroline Alice J St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 798
Cockman Rosa St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 798
Cockman Rose St Geo H Sq 1a 798
West Horace Charles G St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 798
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