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Deathaft 1230
GeneralOf Flamborough.
FatherRobert II Constable (-<1208)
MotherEufemia
Notes for William I Constable
Possibly he is the source of the Constable both of Flamborough and of Holderness or Halsham.  He had sons Simon (b.1243, Robert, Richard and possibly William.

See this excellent research from David Hepworth:

From: david@hepworth1955.fsnet.co.uk (David Hepworth)
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Subject: Re: Thomas de Thweng (d. 1374) and the Constables of Flamborough
Date: 3 Oct 2004 23:09:59 -0700

Dear John

A friend came over this weekend on a partially related subject (as you
know I've been working on outlaws) and this includes many of the
families we are discussing.  I was mentioning the work being done and
he sent the following through if it adds anything at all.

Ist result, three quarters of the way down the page (pull down on
right side of page) are deeds with Juliana Deyvil and Robert
Constable. A deed dated 1267 has Robert le Constable and his mother
Dame Juliana Deyvil.

Richard Constable, son of William held land in Holm which possibly is
the Holm near Howden. Richard, Robert and William were all rebels
around 1266.

From the records I have seen, the Constable tree goes like this:

Robert le Constable of Holderness had three sons that I have seen,
William, Simon and Fulk.

William le Constable (b1205) had sons, Simon (b1243), Robert, Richard
and possibly William has there is a deed on the a2a site which says
William son of William Constable. I think that this may be the main
point where the Constables separated into Constables of Halsham and
Constables of Flamborough. That said I have seen in the EYC, William
le Constable referred to as of Holderness and of Flamborough. Robert
le Constable jnr is widely described as of Flamborough and his lands
seized in 1266 were near Flamborough.



17. Convention between Sir Marmaduke de Tweng and William the
Constable, son of Robert the Constable of Holderness, property 1
bovate and service of 6 carucates in Killum given by Sir M. to W. in
marriage with his daughter Cicely, reserving services due to the
Archbishop and Chapter of Rouen. Wtn. Fulk de Oyri, John de Ancona,
Walter Grendalle, Roger Aguillon, John de Edlington, Simon the
Constable. Michaelmas 1227.

That is the marriage deed, it is 7/8s of the way down the page of the
1st result.

I have just found this in my notes:

EYC Vol XI Percy Fee  p204

'In 1240, the Prior of Sixle recognised that he held a tenement in
Legsby and North Willingham of William le Constable and Cecily his
wife at a yearly rent of 100s, doing the forinsec service to the Chief
Lords of the fee. Robert de Tweng was present and warranted to the
Prior the tenement  from which the service was due. Cecily, as will be
noted below was Robert's sister and daughter of Marmeduke de Tweng and
it is clear that the latter gave part of the Tweng interest in Legsby
to William le Constable in frank marriage when he gave land in Killum
in the East Riding of Yorkshire'.

William le Constable must have been married twice. He married Cicely
de Tweng in 1227/8ish and they are still married in 1240. She has then
either died or he has divorced her and then he marries Juliana Deyvil
who is the mother of at least Robert le Constable (b c1245)? Simon
might be the son of either Cecily de Tweng or Juliana Deyvil?



I have just been looking at my notes and I have a record with a Birken
in.

Patent Roll 1216-1225  p310

1221

'De justiciariis constitutuendis
Johannes de Birken, Marmeducas de Tueng, Willelmus de Tameton,
Jordanus Heirin, constituti sunt justiciarii ad assisam nove
dissaissine capiendum apud Eboracum a die Sancti Johannis Baptiste in
xv dies, quam Galfridus de Frisbois et Beatricia uxor ejus, Alanus de
Surdevall et Hawisia uxor ejus, aramiaverunt versus W comitem
Albermarle et Adam de Caruis et Walterum de Dik, Robertum de Lelay et
priorem Sancte Trinitatis Eboraci de tenemento in Beningholm.
Et mandatum est vicecomiti Eboraci quad assisam illam coram eis venire
faciat.

Beningholm is near Halsham and in 1285 was listed as a manor held by
Simon Constable.


From the above entry, the Heyrun/Heririn family are also closely
allied to the Tweng family. The family held land at Killum near Twing
but were landholders in and connected mainly to Northumberland.

Liberate Rolls 1251-1260  p356

Feb 15 1257 Westminster   Allocate to William Heyrun, Sheriff of
Northumberland, in the issues of the county, 20 marks for the expenses
of himself and Robert de Tuenge on divers occasions when going on the
King's errands to the parts of Scotland'.



Patent Roll 1247-1258  p471

1256

May 2 Windsor- Protection clause for Robert de Tweng, Gilbert Darel,
Walter Darel and Marmeduke de Elvredeby who are going beyond seas with
the said Robert in the service of the King of Scotland, so long as
they be there in the said service'.


Robert de Tweng was heavily engaged on missions to and from Scotland
for Henry III and Alexander III, King of Scotland. In 1256 (above), he
accompanied one of Alexander's chief advisors on a mission to Rome to
see the Pope. There is a strong connection between the northern nobles
and the Scottish King Alexander. Interesting indeed that Robert Hod
turns up in the Scottish records in 1264 receiving the robe and
pension for service done to Alexander III. In a Royal Letter, dated 10
June 1262, Alexander sent a letter to Henry saying that he could not
spare Roger de Mowbray whom Henry had requested to return to England.
John Deyvil held his manors in North Yorkshire of Roger de Mowbray has
did Richard de Riparia. Roger was in Scotland serving Alexander just
around or before the time Robert Hod must have been serving Alexander.
The Holderness rebellion arose as a refusal to be summoned by Henry
and Edward for service to Scotland. Pacification terms were agreed to
bring the rebellion to an end. I wonder if part of the concession the
rebels would have had to agree was that some of them may have had to
serve in Scotland anyway?


Cheers

David
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