Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
NameJohn FitzRobert 
[135, Clavering, p. 121], [60, Eure art, Vol V, p. 179-180], [121, Blythborough, Suffolk barony, p. 16], [121, Whalton, Northumberland barony (2nd class), p. 150]
[135, Clavering, p. 121], [60, Eure art, Vol V, p. 179-180], [121, Blythborough, Suffolk barony, p. 16], [121, Whalton, Northumberland barony (2nd class), p. 150]Death1241
GeneralFeudal baron of Warkworth and Clavering.
FatherRobert FitzRoger (-1214)
MotherMargery de Chesney Lady of Horsford (-1231)
Spouses
Notes for John FitzRobert
Magna Carta surety.
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In CP XIV p. 282, correcting the Dunbar article in CP IV, p. 506, it is suggestd that John and Ada probably also had a daughter Eupheme who m. Patrick earl of Dunbar, d. 1248.
The same correction in Vol XIV states that Ada was "dau. of Hugh de Baliol of Barnard Castle (and sister of John de Baliol" with a reference to an article by Andrew B W MacEwan in the Genealogist vol 9 of 1988 pp. 231-6.
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In CP XIV p. 282, correcting the Dunbar article in CP IV, p. 506, it is suggestd that John and Ada probably also had a daughter Eupheme who m. Patrick earl of Dunbar, d. 1248.
The same correction in Vol XIV states that Ada was "dau. of Hugh de Baliol of Barnard Castle (and sister of John de Baliol" with a reference to an article by Andrew B W MacEwan in the Genealogist vol 9 of 1988 pp. 231-6.
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Arms Generally notes for John FitzRobert
I wonder if his, or perhaps his father’s arms, were derived from Vere as his paternal grandmother was a Vere? This would explain the quarterly construct and with a bend instead of a star.
Meantime we do not know what tinctures were used. A hundred years later, his male line descendants used:
Quarterly or and gules, a bend sable.
So I’ll go for that!
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Meantime we do not know what tinctures were used. A hundred years later, his male line descendants used:
Quarterly or and gules, a bend sable.
So I’ll go for that!
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Armorial Blazon notes for John FitzRobert
Quarterly or and gules, a bend sable (see Arms Generally Note).
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The BOMC gives him:
Or, two chevrons Gules.
Nothing from NSMCD&B.
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The BOMC gives him:
Or, two chevrons Gules.
Nothing from NSMCD&B.