Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
NameSimon de Joinville 
[54, His son Geoffrey's article], [60, Geneville art, Vol V, p. 628 seq]
[54, His son Geoffrey's article], [60, Geneville art, Vol V, p. 628 seq]Deathca Apr 1233
GeneralSeneschal de Champagne.
Notes for Simon de Joinville
CP says there there is a history of this family to the first half of the 11th century by H F Delaborde in 1894: "Jean de Joinville et les Seigneurs de Joinville".
Arms Generally notes for Simon de Joinville
Auithor Unknown give him some distinct arms on his Early Blazon website. It looks like: azure, three pairds of opposed leaves, on a chief argent a demi-lion rampant gules.
His reference is: DA 306 of 1221, where ‘DA’ translates to ‘Inventaire de la collection de sceaux’ by Douet d’Arcq.
Brian Timms gives the arms as Sable three horse braies fesswise in pale a chief argent a lion rampant issuant gules. This indicates that I had misunderstood the illustration of the horse brays on the Early Blazon site. But the significant difference to his son is that the chief is argent instead of ermine.
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His reference is: DA 306 of 1221, where ‘DA’ translates to ‘Inventaire de la collection de sceaux’ by Douet d’Arcq.
Brian Timms gives the arms as Sable three horse braies fesswise in pale a chief argent a lion rampant issuant gules. This indicates that I had misunderstood the illustration of the horse brays on the Early Blazon site. But the significant difference to his son is that the chief is argent instead of ermine.
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