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NameGeoffrey de Joinville Lord Geneville 
[60, Geneville art, Vol V, p. 628 seq], [74, No 21020, p. 197], [54, Walter de Lacy's article], [60, Audley art, Vol I, p. 336 seq], [60, Berkeley article, vol XIV, p. 87], [121, Weobley, Herefords barony, p. 96]
[60, Geneville art, Vol V, p. 628 seq], [74, No 21020, p. 197], [54, Walter de Lacy's article], [60, Audley art, Vol I, p. 336 seq], [60, Berkeley article, vol XIV, p. 87], [121, Weobley, Herefords barony, p. 96]Birthca 1226, Dublin
Death21 Oct 1314
BurialHouse of Friars Preachers, Trim (Ireland?)
GeneralOf Ludlow, Salop. 1st baron: 6 Feb 1298/9. Justicar of Ireland. Crusader with Ed I. Yr. s.
FatherSimon de Joinville (-ca1233)
MotherBeatrix
Spouses
1Maud de Lacy [54, Walter de Lacy's article], [60, Geneville art, Vol V, p. 628 seq], [74, No 21021, p. 197], [121, Weobley, Herefords barony, p. 96]
[54, Walter de Lacy's article], [60, Geneville art, Vol V, p. 628 seq], [74, No 21021, p. 197], [121, Weobley, Herefords barony, p. 96]FatherGilbert de Lacy (ca1208-<1230)
MotherIsobel Bigod (ca1210-)
Marriage4 Aug 1252, Woodstock, Oxon. [74]
Arms Generally notes for Geoffrey de Joinville Lord Geneville
Azure, three brays in pale Or, on a chief Ermine a demi lion rampant Gules, issuant. (CP Geneville art, Vol V, p. 628, note (f).)
Armorial Blazon notes for Geoffrey de Joinville Lord Geneville
Azure, three brays in pale Or, on a chief Ermine a demi lion rampant Gules, issuant.
Blazon source notes for Geoffrey de Joinville Lord Geneville
CP Geneville art, Vol V, p. 628, note (f).
Parker’s Healdry makes is clear, with an illustration, that the brays were expanded for Joinville.
Parker’s Healdry makes is clear, with an illustration, that the brays were expanded for Joinville.
DNB Main notes for Geoffrey de Joinville Lord Geneville
Geoffrey de Geneville or Joinville d. 1314
Name: Geoffrey de Geneville or Joinville
Dates: d. 1314
Active Date: 1294
Gender: Male
Field of Interest: Military, Politics, Government and Political Movements
Occupation: Soldier, diplomat, and royal minister
Place of
Birth: Champagne
Death: Dominican priory of Trim
Spouse: Widow of Peter of Geneva, Matilda de Braose, a granddaughter and...
Sources: A. Clarke et al. (eds.), Foedera, 1816-69;...
Contributor: Michael Prestwich
Article
Geoffrey de Geneville or Joinville d. 1314, soldier, diplomat, and royal minister, came from Champagne, and styled himself lord of Vaucouleurs. He was a younger son of Simon de Joinville; his eldest brother was Jean de Joinville, biographer of Louis IX of France. Geoffrey came to England in 1251. His half-sister was the wife of Peter of Savoy, Earl of Richmond [q.v.], one of the queen's uncles, and he was linked to a powerful group of Savoyards at court. He was closely associated with the heir to the throne, the future Edward I, and was with him in Gascony in 1255. Through marriage in 1252 to the widow of Peter of Geneva, Matilda de Braose, a granddaughter and co-heiress of Walter de Lacy, sixth Baron Lacy [q.v.], he acquired lands in the Welsh marches, at Ewyas Lacy and Ludlow, and in Ireland, where he and his wife held half the county of Meath. His power there was centred on the great castle at Trim, which he held at the king's pleasure.
Edward, the heir to the throne, used the Geneville castle at Ludlow in the days after his escape from custody in 1265. Geoffrey also provided important assistance in Ireland in that year. He showed great political skill in reconciling Montfortian and royalist supporters, enabling Edward to receive significant support from Ireland in the campaign that culminated in victory at Evesham.
There was a strong crusading tradition in the Geneville family, extending back to the mid-twelfth century: Geoffrey and his brother William duly accompanied Edward on crusade in 1270, but returned before him. Geoffrey was then appointed justiciar of Ireland in 1273, a post he held until 1276. He served in Edward's Welsh wars, but his interests increasingly centred upon Ireland: in 1283 he granted his English lands to his son Peter. Later in Edward I's reign he and his wife had a series of disputes with the Dublin government. They had been successful in the 1250s in recovering the original franchisal rights, as they had existed under Henry II, in their liberty of Trim. In 1293, however, the liberty of Trim was taken into the king's hands, following a dispute over a case of imprisonment. The liberty was restored two years later in recognition of Geoffrey's service in Wales. It was confiscated again in 1302, but eventually, after a long struggle, he succeeded in maintaining his palatine rights. Geoffrey was fortunate in having the support of the king in his arguments with royal officials in Ireland.
Geoffrey was an experienced diplomat: he took part in negotiations with the Welsh prince Llewelyn ap Gruffydd [q.v.] in 1267, and in 1280 he acted as Edward's proctor in Paris. In 1290 and 1300 he went on missions to the papal curia, and in 1298 and 1299 took part in Anglo-French peace negotiations. His major role in domestic politics came in 1297, when he supported the king in the crisis caused by royal demands for men and money for the French war. Edward summoned troops to London, and demanded that Roger Bigod, fifth Earl of Norfolk, and Humphrey de Bohun, third Earl of Hereford [qq.v.], enrol them, in their capacities as marshal and constable. This the earls refused to do, so the king replaced them in their offices with Geoffrey de Geneville and Thomas de Berkeley respectively. Geoffrey's appointment was appropriate, as he had been assistant to the marshal in the Welsh war of 1282. Once the crisis was over, the office reverted to the Earl of Norfolk.
Geoffrey de Geneville outlived his two sons, Geoffrey and Peter, and died in 1314, far from his native Champagne and full of years, at the Dominican priory of Trim, to which he had retired in 1308. His heiress, his granddaughter Joan, married Roger Mortimer, eighth Baron of Wigmore [q.v.], lover of Queen Isabella [q.v.].
Sources
A. Clarke et al. (eds.), Foedera, 1816-69; G. E. Cokayne, Complete Peerage, new edn., vol. v, 1926; M. C. Prestwich, Edward I, 1988; G. H. Hand, English Law in Ireland 1290-1324, 1967; R. Frame, `Ireland and the Barons' wars', in Thirteenth Century England, vol. i (ed. P. R. Coss and S. D. Lloyd), 1986; S. D. Lloyd, English Society and the Crusade 1216-1307, 1988.
Contributor: Michael Prestwich
published 1993
Name: Geoffrey de Geneville or Joinville
Dates: d. 1314
Active Date: 1294
Gender: Male
Field of Interest: Military, Politics, Government and Political Movements
Occupation: Soldier, diplomat, and royal minister
Place of
Birth: Champagne
Death: Dominican priory of Trim
Spouse: Widow of Peter of Geneva, Matilda de Braose, a granddaughter and...
Sources: A. Clarke et al. (eds.), Foedera, 1816-69;...
Contributor: Michael Prestwich
Article
Geoffrey de Geneville or Joinville d. 1314, soldier, diplomat, and royal minister, came from Champagne, and styled himself lord of Vaucouleurs. He was a younger son of Simon de Joinville; his eldest brother was Jean de Joinville, biographer of Louis IX of France. Geoffrey came to England in 1251. His half-sister was the wife of Peter of Savoy, Earl of Richmond [q.v.], one of the queen's uncles, and he was linked to a powerful group of Savoyards at court. He was closely associated with the heir to the throne, the future Edward I, and was with him in Gascony in 1255. Through marriage in 1252 to the widow of Peter of Geneva, Matilda de Braose, a granddaughter and co-heiress of Walter de Lacy, sixth Baron Lacy [q.v.], he acquired lands in the Welsh marches, at Ewyas Lacy and Ludlow, and in Ireland, where he and his wife held half the county of Meath. His power there was centred on the great castle at Trim, which he held at the king's pleasure.
Edward, the heir to the throne, used the Geneville castle at Ludlow in the days after his escape from custody in 1265. Geoffrey also provided important assistance in Ireland in that year. He showed great political skill in reconciling Montfortian and royalist supporters, enabling Edward to receive significant support from Ireland in the campaign that culminated in victory at Evesham.
There was a strong crusading tradition in the Geneville family, extending back to the mid-twelfth century: Geoffrey and his brother William duly accompanied Edward on crusade in 1270, but returned before him. Geoffrey was then appointed justiciar of Ireland in 1273, a post he held until 1276. He served in Edward's Welsh wars, but his interests increasingly centred upon Ireland: in 1283 he granted his English lands to his son Peter. Later in Edward I's reign he and his wife had a series of disputes with the Dublin government. They had been successful in the 1250s in recovering the original franchisal rights, as they had existed under Henry II, in their liberty of Trim. In 1293, however, the liberty of Trim was taken into the king's hands, following a dispute over a case of imprisonment. The liberty was restored two years later in recognition of Geoffrey's service in Wales. It was confiscated again in 1302, but eventually, after a long struggle, he succeeded in maintaining his palatine rights. Geoffrey was fortunate in having the support of the king in his arguments with royal officials in Ireland.
Geoffrey was an experienced diplomat: he took part in negotiations with the Welsh prince Llewelyn ap Gruffydd [q.v.] in 1267, and in 1280 he acted as Edward's proctor in Paris. In 1290 and 1300 he went on missions to the papal curia, and in 1298 and 1299 took part in Anglo-French peace negotiations. His major role in domestic politics came in 1297, when he supported the king in the crisis caused by royal demands for men and money for the French war. Edward summoned troops to London, and demanded that Roger Bigod, fifth Earl of Norfolk, and Humphrey de Bohun, third Earl of Hereford [qq.v.], enrol them, in their capacities as marshal and constable. This the earls refused to do, so the king replaced them in their offices with Geoffrey de Geneville and Thomas de Berkeley respectively. Geoffrey's appointment was appropriate, as he had been assistant to the marshal in the Welsh war of 1282. Once the crisis was over, the office reverted to the Earl of Norfolk.
Geoffrey de Geneville outlived his two sons, Geoffrey and Peter, and died in 1314, far from his native Champagne and full of years, at the Dominican priory of Trim, to which he had retired in 1308. His heiress, his granddaughter Joan, married Roger Mortimer, eighth Baron of Wigmore [q.v.], lover of Queen Isabella [q.v.].
Sources
A. Clarke et al. (eds.), Foedera, 1816-69; G. E. Cokayne, Complete Peerage, new edn., vol. v, 1926; M. C. Prestwich, Edward I, 1988; G. H. Hand, English Law in Ireland 1290-1324, 1967; R. Frame, `Ireland and the Barons' wars', in Thirteenth Century England, vol. i (ed. P. R. Coss and S. D. Lloyd), 1986; S. D. Lloyd, English Society and the Crusade 1216-1307, 1988.
Contributor: Michael Prestwich
published 1993