NameWilfred Robert Carter [4, 1891, PRO ref RG12, piece 1015/37, p. 9], [3, His birth, Q1 of 1884, Brentford dist, vol 3a, p. 67]
Birth8 Jan 1884, Twickenham, Mx
Notes for Wilfred Robert Carter
Apparently the Times has a birth notice in 1890 - or was this a separate child? Yes, has to be a later child, if anything, and probably Ina Bianca.
There are far too many Carter births in FreeBMD for Q1 of 1884 to begin to find the child’s name.
But he and four siblings were found from the 1891 census and FreeBMD then quickly released the full names.
His birth index, though not to be found on the new GRO indices, with mother’s maiden name:
First name(s) WILFRID ROBERT
Last name CARTER
Birth year 1884
Birth quarter 1
Mother's maiden name -
District Brentford
County Middlesex
Country England
Volume 3A
Page 67
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Later: Now to be found on the new GRO index:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
CARTER, WILFRID ROBERT HAILSTONE
GRO Reference: 1884 M Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 67
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Which, if any,, of these might be his marriage:
Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1921 (>99%)
Carter Wilfred R Chapman Bradfield 2c 912
Marriages Sep 1930 (>99%)
Carter Wilfred R Whittington Epsom 2a 62
Marriages Sep 1935 (>99%)
Carter Wilfred R Hill Surrey S. W. 2a 1431
Marriages Mar 1944 (>99%)
CARTER Wilfred R J Nicholls Camberwell 1d 837
The spouses, in the same order were:
Laura A Chapman
Amelia L Whittington
Gertrude C Hill
Violet E Nicholls
His will makes it clear that his wife was Amelia Ladysmith and thus née Whittington.
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This 1939 Register record has the same precise birth date and name and looks very like him at 8,9,10,11 Upper Street,Mortons Lane, City of Westminster, London (with some 40 odd other inhabitants, it looks like a professional boarding house):
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Wilfred R Carter 08 Jan 1884 Male Practising Accountant & Solicitors Manager Married 266 12
Ref: RG101/0639H/017/26 Letter Code: AYUY
So he had been married.
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This is the only death index for a Wilfred R Carter from 1939 to 1990:
First name(s) WILFRID R
Last name CARTER
Gender Male
Birth year 1884
Age 80
Death quarter 1
Death year 1964
District Essex South Western
County Essex
Volume 5A
Page 252
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
But the age does NOT tie in with an 1884 birth year. Oh yes it does!
But no probate can be found for this death.
Though there is a Probate index (no death registration though), which could before the above death year, but is NOT for the above birth year.
First name(s) Wilfred Robert
Last name Carter
Death year 1986
Death date 07 Jun 1986
Probate year 1986
Probate date 29 Sep 1986
Residence town -
Registry Winchester
County Hampshire
Country England
Record set England & Wales Government Probate Death Index 1858-2019
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This advert appeared in The Harrow Observer and Gazette of 17 April 1952:
“Persuant to the Trustee Act 1925
“TAKE NOTICE that all persons having claims against the Estate of Jane Manesterlate of 37 Charterhouse Avenue Wembley, Middlesex, Widow, who died on the 29th January 1952, are requested to send particulars thereof to me the undersigned, or to WILFRED ROBERT CARTER, of 203 Uxbridge Road, Hampton Hill, Middlesex the Executor, on or before the 15th day of June, 1952, after which date the Executor will distribute the estate having regard only to valid claims then notified.
“Dated tis 7th day of April 1952
SIDNEY FRANKS
“Solicitor for the Executor
21 Blackstock Road,
Finsbury Park,
London N.4.”
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The above address of Hampton Hill was used for a search in the 1939 Register for wives with the above forenames of Laura A, Amelia L and Gertude C, though I searched for 20 miles around Hampton:
Findings:
1. Laura L A Carter of Fulham, married no husband present, with two children; she was born on 30 Oct 1892.
2. Amelia L Carter had her husband with her, a brick layer & House painter. Definitely not her.
3. Gertude C Carter of Southgate, had her husband with her, so not her either.
4. Gertrude C Carter of Epsom, no husband at home, no children and born 1884 and found in Epsom Park Hospital, probably not her.
I don’t think any of these were his family.
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Will notes for Wilfred Robert Carter
This may be his probate index, the only Wilfred Robert Carter proved in 1986:
CARTERT, Wilfred RObert of Belmont 55 Baughurst Rd Aldermaston Reading died 7 June 1986 Probate Winchester 29 September £95830 86524 15929P
I have ordered this will (on 15 Apr 2020). (Delivered on 7 May)
No Wilfred Robert probate found in 1987 or 1988.
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In his will dated 14 August 1978 he appointer as executors his wife Amelia Ladysmith Carter and his son Raymond Wilfred Robert Carter and listed additionally:
1. His grandson Glenn Carter
2. His granddaughter Amanda Berenice Carter
Sounds like he had but the one child.
Notes for Wilfred Robert & Amelia Ladysmith (Family)
Their marriage index:
First name(s) WILFRED R
Last name CARTER
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1930
MarriageFinder WILFRED R CARTER married one of these people
Amelia L Whittington
Spouse's last name Whittington
District Epsom
County Surrey
Country England
Volume 2A
Page number 62
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
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