Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
NameJosiah Cross 
[170, pp.109-118, Dec 1932], [95, p.181], [149, No 14479 on "John" Cross], [57, Vol II, p. 279]
[170, pp.109-118, Dec 1932], [95, p.181], [149, No 14479 on "John" Cross], [57, Vol II, p. 279]Birthca 1623
Deathbef 1665
GeneralOf St Swythin's London.
FatherWilliam Cross (->1657)
MotherSophia (->1657)
Spouses
1Frances Garrard [95, pp.181-2], [149, No 14479 on "John" Cross], [40, 1st series, Vol 2, Lambarde Diary, pp. 104-110]
[95, pp.181-2], [149, No 14479 on "John" Cross], [40, 1st series, Vol 2, Lambarde Diary, pp. 104-110]FatherSir John Garrard Bart (ca1590-1637)
MotherElizabeth Barkham (ca1592-1632)
Marriageca 25 Oct 1647, Poss. St Bartholomew the Less [149, No 14479 on "John" Cross]
Notes for Josiah Cross
Martin P-L writes:
His rent book is in the Oxford Record Office.
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TFL, Oct, 2003: From Boyd's "Inhabitants of London" (in the SoG, London), I found an entry, no 14479, for a John Cross. It looks extremely like this is for the man we know as Josiah Cross, possibly from some corruption of Jos to Jon.
Boyd's entry was principally taken from the Registry of Marriage Licence Allegations by the Bishop of London 1611-1829, published in the 19th cent by the Harleian Society as Volume 25, part II. On page 279 is to be found:
"1647, Oct 25: John Crosse of Greenwich, Kent, Merchant, Bachelor, 22, son of William Crosse, of same, merchant, who consents, & Frances Garrard of East Greenwich, Kent, Spinster, 18, dau of Sir [blank] Garrard, Knt, decd; consent of her mother Dame [blank] Garrard of Eltham, Kent, Widow; at St Barthol. the Less."
This sounds as if Frances' mother had taken herself and her youngest children off away from the family home after her husband had died.
Obviously the next step is to obtain a copy of the original marriage licence record to see what the name there actually (appear to) say. Further, the marriage record at St Bartholomew the Less may (just) still exist and finally Boyd's entry also gives some children (to a John Crosse, I wonder?) who are recorded from the register of St Mary le Bow; both of these need following up.
TFPL, Late Oct 2003: The Londone Diocese marriage Allegations are in the Manuscript section of the Guildhall Library.
The Bartholomew the Less parish records are in the archives of St Bartholomew's Hospital, Smithfield, London. But this marriage isn't; the archivist kindly reported that the church of St Bartholomew by the Exchange was sometimes known as St Bartholomew the Less and those records are in the Guildhall Library.
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TFPL, Nov 2003: Found the near illegible film of the marriage licences and Josiah's names start's clearly with "Jo" and continues with a massive squiggle, easily taken to be Johannes, and which could be equally easily "Josiah". William Crosse the father is reasonably legible and so is added to this database. The blanks for the parents of Frances are undoubtedly due to the application being made by Mark Cottle on behalf of the happy couple and this Mark might not have realised he had to produce the forenames.
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TFPL, Sep 2004, found on Ancestry.com (any connection?):
England: Canterbury - Administrations in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury, 1649-1654
Index of Acts of Administration in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury 1649-1654
County: General
Country: England
Crosse, Josias, St. Olaves, Southw., Surr. 1653-4 2 442
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His rent book is in the Oxford Record Office.
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TFL, Oct, 2003: From Boyd's "Inhabitants of London" (in the SoG, London), I found an entry, no 14479, for a John Cross. It looks extremely like this is for the man we know as Josiah Cross, possibly from some corruption of Jos to Jon.
Boyd's entry was principally taken from the Registry of Marriage Licence Allegations by the Bishop of London 1611-1829, published in the 19th cent by the Harleian Society as Volume 25, part II. On page 279 is to be found:
"1647, Oct 25: John Crosse of Greenwich, Kent, Merchant, Bachelor, 22, son of William Crosse, of same, merchant, who consents, & Frances Garrard of East Greenwich, Kent, Spinster, 18, dau of Sir [blank] Garrard, Knt, decd; consent of her mother Dame [blank] Garrard of Eltham, Kent, Widow; at St Barthol. the Less."
This sounds as if Frances' mother had taken herself and her youngest children off away from the family home after her husband had died.
Obviously the next step is to obtain a copy of the original marriage licence record to see what the name there actually (appear to) say. Further, the marriage record at St Bartholomew the Less may (just) still exist and finally Boyd's entry also gives some children (to a John Crosse, I wonder?) who are recorded from the register of St Mary le Bow; both of these need following up.
TFPL, Late Oct 2003: The Londone Diocese marriage Allegations are in the Manuscript section of the Guildhall Library.
The Bartholomew the Less parish records are in the archives of St Bartholomew's Hospital, Smithfield, London. But this marriage isn't; the archivist kindly reported that the church of St Bartholomew by the Exchange was sometimes known as St Bartholomew the Less and those records are in the Guildhall Library.
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TFPL, Nov 2003: Found the near illegible film of the marriage licences and Josiah's names start's clearly with "Jo" and continues with a massive squiggle, easily taken to be Johannes, and which could be equally easily "Josiah". William Crosse the father is reasonably legible and so is added to this database. The blanks for the parents of Frances are undoubtedly due to the application being made by Mark Cottle on behalf of the happy couple and this Mark might not have realised he had to produce the forenames.
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TFPL, Sep 2004, found on Ancestry.com (any connection?):
England: Canterbury - Administrations in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury, 1649-1654
Index of Acts of Administration in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury 1649-1654
County: General
Country: England
Crosse, Josias, St. Olaves, Southw., Surr. 1653-4 2 442
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Arms Generally notes for Josiah Cross
Azure, a chevron between 3 saltires couped argent - Twysden; also Dugdale.
(On an escutcheon of pretence.)
RCL P-L reports them as: Azure a chevron between three saltires or.
(On an escutcheon of pretence.)
RCL P-L reports them as: Azure a chevron between three saltires or.