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Birth15 May 1890, Ardington, Berks
Death7 Oct 1979, Trinity Hospital, Taunton
BurialAshes in Stogumber churchyard (will)
General4th and only surv. s. Tea planter/merchant. Major and MC in WW1. dsp. d.unm.
EducationWellington College: 1903-8; Magdalen College, Oxford: 1908-11, BA.
MotherMary Hodgson Gillett (1856-1947)
Notes for Arthur Malcolm Gillett Trotter MC
MC????  (How? Go to Kew Public Records Office, where all this is to be found.  But he is not in the TNA catalogue at all as he was in the Ceylon Rifle Corps, not the UK Forces.)

He was last living and died at Mill Close, Stogumber, Taunton, Somerset.

APL says he was in the RFA (who?) and the HQ RA Woolwich might have details on him.

APL also confirms that he had the MC and says someone in the War Office might have the details.

21st March 2002: AMGT's probate was on 8 Jane 1980, as found in the will indexes in 1st Avenue House, High Holburn, London.  His will and admon have been ordered.  Still no sign of any death certificate.

Fri 5th April 2002 (the day the queen mum was placed in Westminster hall): Armed with the above death date I returned to the family History centre and opened up the right volume and there he was, died on 7th Oct.  His death certificate has now been ordered.

I also received his will, showing that he died worth £205,000 which he left to a bevy of ladies, probably, APL thinks, widows of friends or colleagues from Ceylon, and also to some relatives.  Regrettably there is no mention of any descendants of his Trotter cousins.

The final process of finding his death certificate led me to finding that I had down the wrong dates for the deaths of his parents, hence not found at FRC; they were wrongly copied by me from Burke's Landed Gents.
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On his death certificate:

Registration District: Tanton Deane
Sub-district: Taunton County of Somerset
1. Date and place of death: Seventh October 1979, Trinity Hospital, Taunton
2. Name and surname: Arthur Malcolm Gillett TROTTER
3. Sex: Male
4. Maiden surname of woman who has married: ---
5. Date and place of birth: 15th May 1890, Ardington, Oxfordshire
6. Occupation and usual address: Tea Planter (retired), Mill Close Stogumber, Somerset
7. (a) Name and surname of informant: Ursula Margot Buckland
   (b) Qualification: Niece
   (c) Usual address: 2 A Edburton Avenue, Brighton, Sussex
8. Cause of death:
  1a Broncopneumonia - 5 days
   b. C.V.R. - 2 weeks
  11. Arteriosclerosis
  Certified by A McArthur M. B.
9. Certified by (sig): Ursula M Buckland
10. Date of registration: Ninth October 1979
11. Signature of Registrar: G Duncan Registrar

Note at bottom: "Clerical omission in Space 8 corrected on 8th November 1979 by me G Duncan registrar in the presence of G C D Lane Superintendent Registrar"
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In the 1901 census he was at a school in Oxfordshire (the as yet unknown details are on another sheet of the census) aged 10 and born in Ardington, Berks.
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The TNA medals archive, Ref WO/372/20, Image ref 13614 show him to have been awarded the MC (but with no details) and The Victory medal and the 1915 Star.  He was in the Ceylon Planters Rifle Corps which he had entered at a private then then was appointed 2/Lt in 5th Brigade RFA (Royal Field Artillery) in June 1915, acting captain and finally captain.

He started his WW1 service in Egypt on 17-11-14.

He was awarded the MC in the New year Honours of Jan 1 1918.  This was a big handout for all and sundry and not for specific acts of gallantry.  It is on p. 48 of the London Gazette Supplement for that day.  The entry reads:

  Lt (A/Capt) Arthur Malcolm Gillett Trotter, R. F. A., Spec Res.
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Cert No 347 of 1890 in birth register.
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Sept 2008, TFPL: I have been to TNA, Kew and found the following:

Education: he was at Wellington from 1902 and in the OTC there
He was then at Magdalen College, Oxford from 1908 to 1911 when he obtained a BA.

In 1915 when he transferred from the Ceylon Planters Rifle Brigade to the RFA in the British Army, he said he was single.  He also said he was slightly deaf (young for that).

In 1916 he was wounded in the neck and face from some explosion and put on sick leave for a month.

In 1919, when he was demobbed, a protection certificate was issued to him which said he was a Tea Planter and single; he was then nearly 29.

His demob with the substantive rank of captain was to be put in the London Gazette on 4.5.20.

His address after military service was Bellwood, Galaha, Ceylon (I believe Belwood is the name on the photo of the infamous truck that ended up halfway down a hill).
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The occasion for my going to the TNA was to see if I could get any more information to establish that he had never married.  As such I did not succeed but I suspect the required evidence is available in the 1971 census where he would most likely have been entered as Single and not as Married or Widowed.  Additionally he would probably have been receiving some state pension (perhaps not much) and some record of that might also indicate that he was not married.  Though I do not think I will have much luck getting hold of either of these records to prove that I am his (heraldic) heir.
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On 24th August 1912, Arthur Malcolm G Trotter departed at Liverpool on ‘Herefordshire’ of the Bibby Line for Colombo, Ceylon.  He was categorised as ‘not accompanied by husband or wife’ and said his country of intended future residence was to be Ceylon.

On 26th July 1919 he, ‘Capt AMG Trotter’, departed as a passenger on “City of London” as a repatriated Government passenger to Colombo, Ceylon.  He was categorised as ‘unaccompanied by husband or wife’.
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Arms Generally notes for Arthur Malcolm Gillett Trotter MC
From the death of his cousin Eileen Constance, Beryl Trotter, only dau. of his uncle William Sampson Trotter, he was the heir of his paternal grandfather William Trotter (formerly Brown).  previously he had been the heir male of this grandfather from the death of his cousin John Frederick Trotter, only son of the same uncle.

I don’t think he took any interest in heraldry, though.  And certainly his will shows no interest in the fact that my father, AP-L, was his heraldic heir.
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