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Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
NameElizabeth Henrietta Drummond 
[52, Baptism on 19 May 1832 at Downe, Kent], [4, 1881 ref: RTG11, piece 19, folio 102, p. 54], [4, 1891 ref RG12, piece 16, folio 13, p. 20], [4, 1881 ref: RTG11, piece 19, folio 102, p. 54]
[52, Baptism on 19 May 1832 at Downe, Kent], [4, 1881 ref: RTG11, piece 19, folio 102, p. 54], [4, 1891 ref RG12, piece 16, folio 13, p. 20], [4, 1881 ref: RTG11, piece 19, folio 102, p. 54]BirthApr 1832, Downe, Kent
Baptism19 May 1832, Downe, Kent
Deathca May 1900, Hendon district, Middlesex
General1st dau. She had 2 daus and 5 s.
FatherRev James Drummond (ca1800-1882)
MotherMary Powys (ca1805-1883)
Spouses
Marriage7 Jun 1855, Wimbledon church, Surrey [19, Marriage on 7 Jun 1855 at Wimbledon church, Surrey]
ChildrenHelen Rosalind (1856-1939)
Alexander Drummond (1858-1933)
Colin Powys (1859-1923)
Neville Atherton (1861-1861)
Roderick Lorn (1864-1875)
Alan James (1865-1944)
Agnes Meta (ca1868-1959)
Notes for Elizabeth Henrietta Drummond
Her baptism transcript from Ancestry:
Name: Elizabeth Henrietta Drummond
Gender: Female
Record Type: Christening (Baptism)
Baptism Date: 19 May 1832
Baptism Place: Downe, Kent, England
Father: James Drummond
Mother: Mary Drummond
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She married in 1855 at Kingston, Surrey to either John Henry Short or Alexander Copse Campbell. So get the 1861 censuses to see which might be her.
And Ancestry turned up trumps with the Marriage image from the register, see their Marriage Notes.
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Not found in 1861 and 1871 censuses:
In 1881 they were at 58, Lancaster Gate, Paddington, Kensington, London with three children:
First name(s) Last name Role Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Alexander C Campbell Head M M 59 1822 Retired Jamaica, West Indies
Elizabeth H Campbell Wife M F 48 1833 - Kent, Down
Helen K Campbell Daur S F 24 1857 - Croydon, Surrey
Alan J Campbell Son S M 15 1866 Scholar Torquay, Devon
Agnes M Campbell Daur S F 12 1869 Scholar Brighton, Sussex
Emma A Freeman Serv S F 36 1845 Ladies maid Heaton, Leicestershire
Janet Brown Serv S F 23 1858 Cook Hertfordshire, Gaddesden Row
Lucy Stamford Serv S F 27 1854 General servant Hampshire, Streatfield
Sarah Woodward Serv S F 29 1852 General servant London, Paddington
Harriet Stamford Serv S F 19 1862 General servant Hampshire, England
Ellen M Child Serv S F 20 1861 General servant Paddington, Middlesex, England
John F Morton Serv S M 15 1866 Page London, Middlesex, England
Ref:
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 19
Folio 102
Page 54
Combined: 1881 ref: RTG11, piece 19, folio 102, p. 54
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1891 census and they were at Lancaster Gate, Paddington, London:
First name(s) Last name Role Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Alexander Cope Campbell Head M M 69 1822 Living on own means Jamaica, West Indies
Elizabeth Henrietta Campbell Wife M F 57 1834 - Kent, Down
Agnes Meta Campbell Daur S F 22 1869 - Brighton, Sussex
Orlandon Cyprian Williams Gson S M 7 1884 - London
Gwendolin Milen Williams Gdau S F 5 1886 - London
Laura Isabella Lonsdale Gest S F 26 1865 - India
Lucy Finder Serv S F 31 1860 Cook domestic Kent
Catharine Bryant Harris Serv M F 27 1864 Parlour maid Laxfield, Suffolk
Mary Agnes Commerford Serv S F 25 1866 House maid Stone, Kent
Mary Cabill Serv S F 19 1872 House maid Eton, Bucks
Sarah Hudson Serv S F 21 1870 Kitchen maid Wolverton, Norfolk
Elizabeth Ann Jeffries Serv S F 30 1861 Ladies maid Monmouth
Helen Jane Poole Serv S F 22 1869 Nurse London, Islington
Ref:
Archive reference RG12
Piece number 16
Folio 13
Page 20
Combined: 1891 ref RG12, piece 16, folio 13, p. 20
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Not found in 1901 on.
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Possible Births in England of their children, from search for Campbell births with Drummond mothers:
Year Forenames Location
1858 Alexander Drummond Croydon
1868 Agnes Meta Brighton
1859 Colin Powys Croydon
Where were Helen K,1857, and Alan J, 1866? (No mother’s maiden names on FindMyPast?) Try the online GRO lists:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
CAMPBELL, ALEXANDER DRUMMOND DRUMMOND
GRO Reference: 1858 M Quarter in CROYDON Volume 02A Page 164
CAMPBELL, COLIN POWYS DRUMMOND
GRO Reference: 1859 S Quarter in CROYDON Volume 02A Page 163
CAMPBELL, RODERICK LORN DRUMMOND
GRO Reference: 1863 D Quarter in BILLESDON Volume 07A Page 29
CAMPBELL, AGNES META DRUMMOND
GRO Reference: 1868 D Quarter in BRIGHTON Volume 02B Page 205
CAMPBELL, MARIA DRUMMOND
GRO Reference: 1865 D Quarter in NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE Volume 10B Page 92
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Searching for baptisms on Ancestry brought in these definites:
1856 Helen Rosalind St Peter’s church, Croydon
1864 Roderick Lorn Galby, Leics died 1875?
1858 Alexander Drummond St Peters, Croydon
And these births on FindMyPast
1856 Helen Rosalind Croydon w/image
1858 Alexander Drummond Croydon, St Peter w/image
1859 Colin Powys Croydon, St Peter w/image
1861 Neville Atherton Ootaeummeb(?), India w/image
1864 Roderick Lord Gaulby, Leics w/image
1865 Alan James Tor-Mohun church, Torquay w/image
which is all the children found except Agnes Meta who is registered. So seven in all, 2 girls and 5 boys.
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Baptism Trancripts:
Name Agnes Mela Campbell ex FindMyPast
Sex Female
Christening Date 14 Jan 1869
Christening Place (Original) St Nicholas, Brighton, Sussex, England
Father's Name Alexander Copse Campbell
Mother's Name Elizabeth Henrietta
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Her death index:
Name: Age at Death (in years):
CAMPBELL, ELIZABETH HENRIETTA 69
GRO Reference: 1900 J Quarter in HENDON Volume 03A Page 107
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Name: Elizabeth Henrietta Drummond
Gender: Female
Record Type: Christening (Baptism)
Baptism Date: 19 May 1832
Baptism Place: Downe, Kent, England
Father: James Drummond
Mother: Mary Drummond
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She married in 1855 at Kingston, Surrey to either John Henry Short or Alexander Copse Campbell. So get the 1861 censuses to see which might be her.
And Ancestry turned up trumps with the Marriage image from the register, see their Marriage Notes.
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Not found in 1861 and 1871 censuses:
In 1881 they were at 58, Lancaster Gate, Paddington, Kensington, London with three children:
First name(s) Last name Role Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Alexander C Campbell Head M M 59 1822 Retired Jamaica, West Indies
Elizabeth H Campbell Wife M F 48 1833 - Kent, Down
Helen K Campbell Daur S F 24 1857 - Croydon, Surrey
Alan J Campbell Son S M 15 1866 Scholar Torquay, Devon
Agnes M Campbell Daur S F 12 1869 Scholar Brighton, Sussex
Emma A Freeman Serv S F 36 1845 Ladies maid Heaton, Leicestershire
Janet Brown Serv S F 23 1858 Cook Hertfordshire, Gaddesden Row
Lucy Stamford Serv S F 27 1854 General servant Hampshire, Streatfield
Sarah Woodward Serv S F 29 1852 General servant London, Paddington
Harriet Stamford Serv S F 19 1862 General servant Hampshire, England
Ellen M Child Serv S F 20 1861 General servant Paddington, Middlesex, England
John F Morton Serv S M 15 1866 Page London, Middlesex, England
Ref:
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 19
Folio 102
Page 54
Combined: 1881 ref: RTG11, piece 19, folio 102, p. 54
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1891 census and they were at Lancaster Gate, Paddington, London:
First name(s) Last name Role Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Alexander Cope Campbell Head M M 69 1822 Living on own means Jamaica, West Indies
Elizabeth Henrietta Campbell Wife M F 57 1834 - Kent, Down
Agnes Meta Campbell Daur S F 22 1869 - Brighton, Sussex
Orlandon Cyprian Williams Gson S M 7 1884 - London
Gwendolin Milen Williams Gdau S F 5 1886 - London
Laura Isabella Lonsdale Gest S F 26 1865 - India
Lucy Finder Serv S F 31 1860 Cook domestic Kent
Catharine Bryant Harris Serv M F 27 1864 Parlour maid Laxfield, Suffolk
Mary Agnes Commerford Serv S F 25 1866 House maid Stone, Kent
Mary Cabill Serv S F 19 1872 House maid Eton, Bucks
Sarah Hudson Serv S F 21 1870 Kitchen maid Wolverton, Norfolk
Elizabeth Ann Jeffries Serv S F 30 1861 Ladies maid Monmouth
Helen Jane Poole Serv S F 22 1869 Nurse London, Islington
Ref:
Archive reference RG12
Piece number 16
Folio 13
Page 20
Combined: 1891 ref RG12, piece 16, folio 13, p. 20
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Not found in 1901 on.
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Possible Births in England of their children, from search for Campbell births with Drummond mothers:
Year Forenames Location
1858 Alexander Drummond Croydon
1868 Agnes Meta Brighton
1859 Colin Powys Croydon
Where were Helen K,1857, and Alan J, 1866? (No mother’s maiden names on FindMyPast?) Try the online GRO lists:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
CAMPBELL, ALEXANDER DRUMMOND DRUMMOND
GRO Reference: 1858 M Quarter in CROYDON Volume 02A Page 164
CAMPBELL, COLIN POWYS DRUMMOND
GRO Reference: 1859 S Quarter in CROYDON Volume 02A Page 163
CAMPBELL, RODERICK LORN DRUMMOND
GRO Reference: 1863 D Quarter in BILLESDON Volume 07A Page 29
CAMPBELL, AGNES META DRUMMOND
GRO Reference: 1868 D Quarter in BRIGHTON Volume 02B Page 205
CAMPBELL, MARIA DRUMMOND
GRO Reference: 1865 D Quarter in NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE Volume 10B Page 92
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Searching for baptisms on Ancestry brought in these definites:
1856 Helen Rosalind St Peter’s church, Croydon
1864 Roderick Lorn Galby, Leics died 1875?
1858 Alexander Drummond St Peters, Croydon
And these births on FindMyPast
1856 Helen Rosalind Croydon w/image
1858 Alexander Drummond Croydon, St Peter w/image
1859 Colin Powys Croydon, St Peter w/image
1861 Neville Atherton Ootaeummeb(?), India w/image
1864 Roderick Lord Gaulby, Leics w/image
1865 Alan James Tor-Mohun church, Torquay w/image
which is all the children found except Agnes Meta who is registered. So seven in all, 2 girls and 5 boys.
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Baptism Trancripts:
Name Agnes Mela Campbell ex FindMyPast
Sex Female
Christening Date 14 Jan 1869
Christening Place (Original) St Nicholas, Brighton, Sussex, England
Father's Name Alexander Copse Campbell
Mother's Name Elizabeth Henrietta
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Her death index:
Name: Age at Death (in years):
CAMPBELL, ELIZABETH HENRIETTA 69
GRO Reference: 1900 J Quarter in HENDON Volume 03A Page 107
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Notes for Alexander Copse & Elizabeth Henrietta (Family)
From the image, thanks Ancestry, of the marriage register, transcript by me:
> Wimbledon, St Mary > 1837-1871
“ Page 69.
“. . . .
“1855. Marriage solemnized in the Parish Church in the Parish of Wimbledon in the County of Surrey
No: “138
When Married: “June 7. [ 1855 ]
His Hers
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Name: “Alexander Copse Campbell Elizabeth Henrietta Drummond
Age: “full full
Condition: “Bachelor Spinster
Profession: “Merchant -
Residence: “Croydon Wimbledon
Father: “Alexander Campbell James Drummond
Father’s job: “Barrister Clerk in orders
“Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies
“ of the Established Church by Licence by me, Atherton L Powys, Off. Min.
“This Marriage was solemnized between us, Alexander Copse Campbell, Elizabeth Henritta Drummond
“ in the Presence of us, James Drummond, J. Mouncey, Lilford
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> Wimbledon, St Mary > 1837-1871
“ Page 69.
“. . . .
“1855. Marriage solemnized in the Parish Church in the Parish of Wimbledon in the County of Surrey
No: “138
When Married: “June 7. [ 1855 ]
His Hers
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Name: “Alexander Copse Campbell Elizabeth Henrietta Drummond
Age: “full full
Condition: “Bachelor Spinster
Profession: “Merchant -
Residence: “Croydon Wimbledon
Father: “Alexander Campbell James Drummond
Father’s job: “Barrister Clerk in orders
“Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies
“ of the Established Church by Licence by me, Atherton L Powys, Off. Min.
“This Marriage was solemnized between us, Alexander Copse Campbell, Elizabeth Henritta Drummond
“ in the Presence of us, James Drummond, J. Mouncey, Lilford
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