Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
NameMichael Moran 
[4, 1861 ref: RG09, piece 2581, folio 5, p. 4], [4, 1871 ref: RG10, piece 2852, folio 37, p. 22], [4, 1881 ref: RG12, piece 2715, folio 7, p. 7], [4, 1891 ref: RG12, piece 2164, folio 7, p. 8], [3, Death, Q2 of 1892, Wolstanton dist, vol 6B, p. 64]
[4, 1861 ref: RG09, piece 2581, folio 5, p. 4], [4, 1871 ref: RG10, piece 2852, folio 37, p. 22], [4, 1881 ref: RG12, piece 2715, folio 7, p. 7], [4, 1891 ref: RG12, piece 2164, folio 7, p. 8], [3, Death, Q2 of 1892, Wolstanton dist, vol 6B, p. 64]Birth1834, Ireland
Deathca May 1892, Wolstanton district, Staffs
GeneralIn 1861: Glazier. 1871, 1881 & 1891: house painter.
Spouses
Notes for Michael Moran
No records found for him in Ireland.
See his son Martin’s Misc Notes for the 1861 census.
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In 1861 census Micahel and his wife were both born in Ireland and they now had 4 children and lived at 56, Derby Street, Macclesfield, Cheshire:
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Michael Moran Head M M 27 1834 Glazier Ireland
Bridgett Moran Wife M F 26 1835 - Ireland
Mary Ann Moran Daur - F 10 1851 Scholar Macclesfield, Cheshire
John Moran Son - M 8 1853 Scholar Macclesfield, Cheshire
Martin Moran Son - M 4 1857 Scholar Macclesfield, Cheshire
Michael Moran Son - M 1 1860 - Macclesfield, Cheshire
Richard Sheed Ldgr M M 45 1816 Silk weaver Macclesfield, Cheshire
Elizabeth Sheed Ldgr M F 39 1822 - Macclesfield, Cheshire
Henry Sheed Ldgr - M 9 1852 Scholar Macclesfield, Cheshire
Ref:
Archive reference RG09
Piece number 2581
Folio 5
Page 4
Combined: 1861 ref: RG09, piece 2581, folio 5, p. 4
Michael Moran and Bridgett Varley look like they married around 1850, from the birth year of their eldest child. But no record can be found of this in either English or Irish records.
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Starting again…
The 1871 census in fact has clearly the same family at Navigation Road, Burslem, Wolstanton, Staffordshire:
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Michael Moran Head M M 39 1832 House Painter Ireland
Bridgett Moran Wife M F 32 1839 - Ireland
John Moran Son S M 17 1854 Potter Cheshire
Martin Moran Son S M 13 1858 Apprentice to Painting Cheshire
Michael Moran Son S M 11 1860 Scholar Cheshire
Ref:
Archive reference RG10
Piece number 2852
Folio 37
Page 22
Combined: 1871 ref: RG10, piece 2852, folio 37, p. 22
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Mistaken identification of the family in 1871:
In 1871 there is a differ family in Macclesfield though the parents had the same names. The oddest feature is the daughter Ann born in 1858 so should have been on the 1861 census, but wasn’t. Further the birth dates of the parents have changed by two or three years. I am not convinced that this family in 1871, and now at at Back of Watercotes Yard, Macclesfield, Cheshire, is the same as that above in 1861:
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Michael Moran Head - M 40 1831 Labourer Ireland
Bridget Moran Wife - F 38 1833 - Ireland
Ann Moran Daur - F 13 1858 - Macclesfield, Cheshire
Mary Moran Daur - F 6 1865 - Macclesfield, Cheshire
Ref:
Archive reference RG10
Piece number 3673
Folio 27
Page 12
Combined: 1871 ref: RG10, piece 3673, folio 27, p. 12
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They had four children at the time of the 1861 census:
Mary Ann Moran Daur - F 10 1851 Scholar Macclesfield, Cheshire
John Moran Son - M 8 1853 Scholar Macclesfield, Cheshire
Martin Moran Son - M 4 1857 Scholar Macclesfield, Cheshire
Michael Moran Son - M 1 1860 - Macclesfield, Cheshire
And in 1871 they had a further 2, with the previous four either left home or deceased:
Ann Moran Daur - F 13 1858 - Macclesfield, Cheshire
Mary Moran Daur - F 6 1865 - Macclesfield, Cheshire
The registered Moran births from a couple of years before Mary Ann’s and over the twenty years from that, born in England and with mother’s maiden name of Varley:
Last name First name(s) Year Of Birth Location
Moran Margaret 1855 Macclesfield, Cheshire
Moran Martin 1857 Macclesfield, Cheshire
Moran Michael 1860 Macclesfield, Cheshire
Moran Michael 1863 West Bromwich, Staffordshire
Moran James 1864 Wolstanton, Staffordshire
Moran Juliana 1866 York, Yorkshire
This does not square up, apart from the birth of their sons Martin and Michael.
There may have been two Moran-Varley families of course.
No baptisms found for that period.
End of mistaken identification of the family in 1871,
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In 1881 they were still at 34, Navigation Road, Burslem, Wolstanton, Staffordshire
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Michael Moran Head M M 48 1833 House painter Ireland
Bridget Moran Wife M F 50 1831 - Macclesfield, Cheshire
Martin Moran Son S M 24 1857 Paper hanger unemployed Macclesfield, Cheshire
Michael Moran Son S M 21 1860 House painter Macclesfield, Cheshire
Margaret Moran Gdau S F 6 1875 Scholar Burslem, Staffordshire
Ref:
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 2715
Folio 7
Page 7
Combined: 1881 ref: RG12, piece 2715, folio 7, p. 7
Note that Bridget was now reported to be Macclesfield born.
Margaret may have been seconded to them, possibly to assist. As she was a Moran, it could be that John was her father.
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In 1891 he and Bridget were both still alive and active and remaining at Navigation Road, Burslem Cobridge, Wolstanton, Staffordshire:
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Michael Moran Head M M 57 1834 House painter Macclesfield, Cheshire, England
Bridget Moran Wife M F 56 1835 - Ireland
Maggie Moran Gdau S F 17 1874 Dressmaker Burslem, Staffordshire
Ref:
Archive reference RG12
Piece number 2164
Folio 7
Page 8
Combined 1891 ref: RG12, piece 2164, folio 7, p. 8
Note that Michael was not put down as born in England while Bridget had reverted to Ireland.
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At the end of these four real censuses, their children are, by census:
Birth
Census Child Yr Qtr Location
1861 Mary Ann Moran Daur - F 10 1851 Scholar Macclesfield, Cheshire
1861 John Moran Son - M 8 1853 Scholar Macclesfield, Cheshire
1861 Martin Moran Son - M 4 1857 Scholar Macclesfield, Cheshire
1861 Michael Moran Son - M 1 1860 - Macclesfield, Cheshire
Their GRO birth records are:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
MORAN, MARY ANNE FARLEY
GRO Reference: 1851 S Quarter in MACCLESFIELD UNION Volume 19 Page 132
MORAN, JOHN PARLEY
GRO Reference: 1853 J Quarter in MACCLESFIELD Volume 08A Page 149
MORAN, MARTIN VARLEY
GRO Reference: 1857 J Quarter in MACCLESFIELD Volume 08A Page 133
MORAN, MICHAEL VARLEY
GRO Reference: 1860 M Quarter in MACCLESFIELD Volume 08A Page 133
Note the manifold spellings of their mother’s maiden name.
Additionally a birth appears that is not in the census:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
MORAN, JANE ANN VARLEY
GRO Reference: 1870 M Quarter in CHESTERFIELD IN THE COUNTY OF DERBY Volume 07B Page 566
In the 1871 census there was a Jane Moran of Lanarkshire, Scotland, and of Auckland, Co Durham, of Newcastle upon Tyne, and of Lancashire. I am going to ignore this birth.
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Not found in the 1901 census. His death index:
Name: Age at Death (in years):
MORAN, MICHAEL 58
GRO Reference: 1892 J Quarter in WOLSTANTON Volume 06B Page 64
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See his son Martin’s Misc Notes for the 1861 census.
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In 1861 census Micahel and his wife were both born in Ireland and they now had 4 children and lived at 56, Derby Street, Macclesfield, Cheshire:
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Michael Moran Head M M 27 1834 Glazier Ireland
Bridgett Moran Wife M F 26 1835 - Ireland
Mary Ann Moran Daur - F 10 1851 Scholar Macclesfield, Cheshire
John Moran Son - M 8 1853 Scholar Macclesfield, Cheshire
Martin Moran Son - M 4 1857 Scholar Macclesfield, Cheshire
Michael Moran Son - M 1 1860 - Macclesfield, Cheshire
Richard Sheed Ldgr M M 45 1816 Silk weaver Macclesfield, Cheshire
Elizabeth Sheed Ldgr M F 39 1822 - Macclesfield, Cheshire
Henry Sheed Ldgr - M 9 1852 Scholar Macclesfield, Cheshire
Ref:
Archive reference RG09
Piece number 2581
Folio 5
Page 4
Combined: 1861 ref: RG09, piece 2581, folio 5, p. 4
Michael Moran and Bridgett Varley look like they married around 1850, from the birth year of their eldest child. But no record can be found of this in either English or Irish records.
_________________________
Starting again…
The 1871 census in fact has clearly the same family at Navigation Road, Burslem, Wolstanton, Staffordshire:
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Michael Moran Head M M 39 1832 House Painter Ireland
Bridgett Moran Wife M F 32 1839 - Ireland
John Moran Son S M 17 1854 Potter Cheshire
Martin Moran Son S M 13 1858 Apprentice to Painting Cheshire
Michael Moran Son S M 11 1860 Scholar Cheshire
Ref:
Archive reference RG10
Piece number 2852
Folio 37
Page 22
Combined: 1871 ref: RG10, piece 2852, folio 37, p. 22
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Mistaken identification of the family in 1871:
In 1871 there is a differ family in Macclesfield though the parents had the same names. The oddest feature is the daughter Ann born in 1858 so should have been on the 1861 census, but wasn’t. Further the birth dates of the parents have changed by two or three years. I am not convinced that this family in 1871, and now at at Back of Watercotes Yard, Macclesfield, Cheshire, is the same as that above in 1861:
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Michael Moran Head - M 40 1831 Labourer Ireland
Bridget Moran Wife - F 38 1833 - Ireland
Ann Moran Daur - F 13 1858 - Macclesfield, Cheshire
Mary Moran Daur - F 6 1865 - Macclesfield, Cheshire
Ref:
Archive reference RG10
Piece number 3673
Folio 27
Page 12
Combined: 1871 ref: RG10, piece 3673, folio 27, p. 12
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They had four children at the time of the 1861 census:
Mary Ann Moran Daur - F 10 1851 Scholar Macclesfield, Cheshire
John Moran Son - M 8 1853 Scholar Macclesfield, Cheshire
Martin Moran Son - M 4 1857 Scholar Macclesfield, Cheshire
Michael Moran Son - M 1 1860 - Macclesfield, Cheshire
And in 1871 they had a further 2, with the previous four either left home or deceased:
Ann Moran Daur - F 13 1858 - Macclesfield, Cheshire
Mary Moran Daur - F 6 1865 - Macclesfield, Cheshire
The registered Moran births from a couple of years before Mary Ann’s and over the twenty years from that, born in England and with mother’s maiden name of Varley:
Last name First name(s) Year Of Birth Location
Moran Margaret 1855 Macclesfield, Cheshire
Moran Martin 1857 Macclesfield, Cheshire
Moran Michael 1860 Macclesfield, Cheshire
Moran Michael 1863 West Bromwich, Staffordshire
Moran James 1864 Wolstanton, Staffordshire
Moran Juliana 1866 York, Yorkshire
This does not square up, apart from the birth of their sons Martin and Michael.
There may have been two Moran-Varley families of course.
No baptisms found for that period.
End of mistaken identification of the family in 1871,
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In 1881 they were still at 34, Navigation Road, Burslem, Wolstanton, Staffordshire
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Michael Moran Head M M 48 1833 House painter Ireland
Bridget Moran Wife M F 50 1831 - Macclesfield, Cheshire
Martin Moran Son S M 24 1857 Paper hanger unemployed Macclesfield, Cheshire
Michael Moran Son S M 21 1860 House painter Macclesfield, Cheshire
Margaret Moran Gdau S F 6 1875 Scholar Burslem, Staffordshire
Ref:
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 2715
Folio 7
Page 7
Combined: 1881 ref: RG12, piece 2715, folio 7, p. 7
Note that Bridget was now reported to be Macclesfield born.
Margaret may have been seconded to them, possibly to assist. As she was a Moran, it could be that John was her father.
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In 1891 he and Bridget were both still alive and active and remaining at Navigation Road, Burslem Cobridge, Wolstanton, Staffordshire:
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Michael Moran Head M M 57 1834 House painter Macclesfield, Cheshire, England
Bridget Moran Wife M F 56 1835 - Ireland
Maggie Moran Gdau S F 17 1874 Dressmaker Burslem, Staffordshire
Ref:
Archive reference RG12
Piece number 2164
Folio 7
Page 8
Combined 1891 ref: RG12, piece 2164, folio 7, p. 8
Note that Michael was not put down as born in England while Bridget had reverted to Ireland.
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At the end of these four real censuses, their children are, by census:
Birth
Census Child Yr Qtr Location
1861 Mary Ann Moran Daur - F 10 1851 Scholar Macclesfield, Cheshire
1861 John Moran Son - M 8 1853 Scholar Macclesfield, Cheshire
1861 Martin Moran Son - M 4 1857 Scholar Macclesfield, Cheshire
1861 Michael Moran Son - M 1 1860 - Macclesfield, Cheshire
Their GRO birth records are:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
MORAN, MARY ANNE FARLEY
GRO Reference: 1851 S Quarter in MACCLESFIELD UNION Volume 19 Page 132
MORAN, JOHN PARLEY
GRO Reference: 1853 J Quarter in MACCLESFIELD Volume 08A Page 149
MORAN, MARTIN VARLEY
GRO Reference: 1857 J Quarter in MACCLESFIELD Volume 08A Page 133
MORAN, MICHAEL VARLEY
GRO Reference: 1860 M Quarter in MACCLESFIELD Volume 08A Page 133
Note the manifold spellings of their mother’s maiden name.
Additionally a birth appears that is not in the census:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
MORAN, JANE ANN VARLEY
GRO Reference: 1870 M Quarter in CHESTERFIELD IN THE COUNTY OF DERBY Volume 07B Page 566
In the 1871 census there was a Jane Moran of Lanarkshire, Scotland, and of Auckland, Co Durham, of Newcastle upon Tyne, and of Lancashire. I am going to ignore this birth.
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Not found in the 1901 census. His death index:
Name: Age at Death (in years):
MORAN, MICHAEL 58
GRO Reference: 1892 J Quarter in WOLSTANTON Volume 06B Page 64
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