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Birth30 Aug 1916, The Vicarage, Littlebourne, Kent
General2nd dau. In 1939: Assistant Manageress Hotel. Migrated to Oz where records not published.
FatherPercy Claud Joy (1868-ca1922)
MotherEleanor Muriel Patterson (1889-1982)
Notes for Pamela Margaret Joy
Her birth index:

Name:             Mother's Maiden Surname:
JOY, PAMELA       PATTERSON  
GRO Reference: 1916  S Quarter in BRIDGE  Volume 02A  Page 1711
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The first of Eleanor Patterson’s children to be clearly identified in 1939!  She was living with her mother and step-father at 1 Puckle Lane, Canterbury, Canterbury, Kent:

First name(s)  Last name(s)  DOB Sex Occupation  Marital status  Schedule  Schedule Sub Number
Norman H   Wightwick         20 Oct 1879  Male    Solicitor                   Married  153  1
Eleanor W  Wightwick         26 May 1889  Female  Unpaid Domestic Duties      Married  153  2
Pamela M   Wells (Joy)       30 Aug 1916  Female  Assistant Manageress Hotel  Single   153  3
Violet A   Owen              29 Apr 1905  Female  Domestic Duties             Single   153  4
The record for this person is officially closed.
Pamela A   Walters (Hayhow)  23 Jun 1930  Female  At School                   Single   153  6
The record for this person is officially closed.
The record for this person is officially closed.

Ref: RG101/1676D/012/26

It is worth noting for Pamela both that she is given a second initial of ‘M’ and that her surname later became ‘Wells’.  Both of these are to be seen in her marriage record later that year.

And in the will of her sister Iris Muriel in 1998, Pamela is referred to as “my sister Pamela Margaret Wells of 41B Hamer Avenue, Wembley Downs, Perth, Western Australia.
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No births found for any children with the surname of Wells and a mother’s maiden name of Joy.  (Did he die in the war?)

There were 24 marriages of Pamela M Wells from 1940 to 1980.  So no idea which of those, if any, could have been hers.

Thus hath Joy ended - in a cloud of unknowing.

However her sister Iris  Muriel Joy left £100000 each to:

1. My sister Pamela Margaret Wells of 41B Hamer Avenue Wembley Downs Perth Western Australia 6019,
2. Michael Hugh Carrol Wells of 418 Hamer Avenue Wembley Downs aforesaid,
3. Timothy Nigel Timlett Wells of 418 Hamer Avenue Wembley Downs aforesaid.

I would guess that Nos 2 and 3 were the sons of her sister.

This guess is confirmed by her half-brother Richard Hugh Wightwick in his will in which he explicitly names:

(a) His nephew Timothy Nigel Tremlett Wells,
(b) His nephew Michael Hugh Carol Wells,

Note that they are in the reverse order to that in Iris Muriel’s will.  But this does mean that these two were known to be the sons of Pamela Margaret Wells, née Joy.
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In 1998 her sister Iris Muriel said that Pamela Margaret was living in Perth, Western Australia so she survived at least until then.

There is a Pamela Margaret Wells who died in New Zealand in 2013 but she was born, they say, on 30 November 1938 so was not this lady.

I cannot find any more information due to the policies on confidentiality for OZ residents.
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Notes for John P & Pamela Margaret (Family)
Their marriage index:

First name(s)       Pamela M
Last name           Joy
Marriage quarter    4
Marriage year       1939
MarriageFinder      Pamela M Joy married one of these people
                    John P Wells
Spouse's last name  Wells
District            Canterbury
County              Kent
Country             England
Volume              2A
Page number         4971
Record set          England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

Note that her second initial of ‘M’, first seen in the 1939 Register, is shown again here.  I’ve flagged her for her 1921 census record.
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Last Modified 13 May 2021Created 14 May 2022 by Tim Powys-Lybbe
Re-created by Tim Powys-Lybbe on 14 May 20220