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Birthca May 1944, Chatham district, Kent
General2nd s. One of two Timothy Pharoahs, so marriage certs needed to identify who begat whom.
FatherNorman Frank Pharoah (1903-1979)
MotherChristine Rosalind Payne (1913-1986)
Notes for Timothy M Pharoah
His birth index:

First name(s)         TIMOTHY M
Last name             PHAROAH
Birth year            1944
Birth quarter         2
Mother's maiden name  Payne
District              Chatham
County                Kent
Country               England
Volume                2A
Page                  2569
Record set            England & Wales Births 1837-2006

Aha: There is also a second birth of a Timothy M Pharoah in 1954, this time with a Weymouth mother; this might have something to do with all the marriages of a Timothy M Pharoah below:

First name(s)         TIMOTHY M
Last name             PHAROAH
Birth year            1954
Birth quarter         2
Mother's maiden name  Weymouth
District              Plympton
County                Devon
Country               England
Volume                7A
Page                  792
Record set            England & Wales Births 1837-2006

There was a corresponding marriage in 1953 in Kingsbridge district, Devon:

First name(s)       GEORGE C M
Last name           PHAROAH
Marriage quarter    3
Marriage year       1953
MarriageFinder      GEORGE C M PHAROAH married one of these people
                    Kathleen Weymouth
Spouse's last name  Weymouth
District            Kingsbridge
County              Devon
Country             England
Volume              7A
Page number         1021
Record set          England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

George C M was born in 1928 in West Ham district, Essex:

First name(s)         GEORGE C M
Last name             PHAROAH
Birth year            1928
Birth quarter         1
Mother's maiden name  Churchman
District              West Ham
County                Essex
Country               England
Volume                4A
Page                  88
Record set            England & Wales Births 1837-2006

But no marriage can be found between Pharaoh and Churchman on FindMyPast.  Though there is this marriage on FreeBMD:

Surname    First name(s)  Spouse     District  Vol  Page
Marriages Mar 1927   (>99%)
Pharaoh    George C M     Churchman  W.Ham     4a   150
Churchman  Violet         Pharoah    W.Ham     4a   150

The copy of the index showed that FindMyPast had mistrancribed Pharoah.

It looks like they named their son precisely for his father.

The father George C M Pharoah was born in 1903 on FindMyPast, but no mother’s maiden name.  On the GRO brith record his birth was:

Name:                                Mother's Maiden Surname:
PHAROAH, GEORGE CHARLES MATTHIAS     WALLIS  
GRO Reference: 1903  J Quarter in GREENWICH  Volume 01D  Page 1073

And in the 1911 census there was a George C Matthias Pharoah aged 8 in East Ham, London with Evelina Pharoah first in the list as wife and no relationships stated to the three children, plus a dleleted Violet Evelina Pharoah aged 16.  All rather anomalous.

I think I have now given up on trying to find the antecedents of the second Timothy M Pharaoh!
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It looks as if there are a total of three marriages for the above two Timothy M Pharoahs:

1. In 1970 to Catherina A Clater in Chelsea, London,
2. In 1977 to Carol A Bardwell, or Bodwell, in Norwich,
3. In 1997 to Carol A Turner (another Carol A?) in Bury St Edmunds.

I think it will take three marriage certs to sort all that out.  They will include the ages of the bridgrooms and their fathers thus showing which family is which.

Let’s see what children they might have had, a Pharoah father with the above mother’s maiden names:

The searches will be:
  with Clater: from 1969 to 1989,
  with Bardwell and Bodwell from 1976 to 1996,
  with Turner from 1976 to 2006 (when internet-ready records stop).

These are the births registered with a Pharoah surname and with the above mother’s maiden names:
1. with Clater: Robin James in 1977 in Lambeth district, London
2. with Clater, Anna Catherina in 1980 in Lambeth district, London
3. with Bardwell, Ryan Berry in 1979 in Wycombe district, Bucks
4. with Bodwell, none
5. with Bardwell, Katrina Louise in 1982 in Newmarket district, Cambs
6. With Bardwell, Rosie Lorraine in 1991 in Colchester district, Essex,
7. With Bardwell, Sam in 1994 in Chelmsford district, Essex,
8. with Turner, none

Note the second Clater birth three years after the marriage to Bardwell.  My guess is that the Clater marriage was that of the Timothy born in 1944 and the Bardwell marriage was with the Timothy born in 1954.  The cheapest way to sort this out is to buy a marriage certificate.  Possibly the Pharoah-Clater marriage as the second Timothy would only have been 16 at the time of that marriage and so unlikely to be him.
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In 2002 there was Timothy M Pharaoh aged 65+ in Streatham London and on the electoral roll with these house occupants:
  Anne Pharoah
  Catherina Pharoah
  Robin Pharoah
Address was 37, Abbotswood Road, London, London, SW16 1AJ

From 2002-2015 in Bury St Edmunds there was another(?) Timothy M Pharoah, no age, in Bury St Edmunds on an electoral roll and with these occupants:
  Elliot Turner,
  Stacy Turner,
  Benjamin Pharoah,
  Carol Pharoah,
  Hayley Pharoah,
  Emma Shaw,
  Kevin Innes
Address was 27, Honeymeade Close, Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, IP31 2EF

I think these are two separate families and that the first one is descended from the family of Eames of Fareham.

BUT ALSO from 1998 to 2020 there was yet a third Timoth Michael Pharoah of 2, Lamb's Passage, London, London, EC1Y 8BB, aged 40 to 44 and born in 1975 with a mother of McMinn, on another Electoral Register and Companies House Directors.  Do not ask me where he came from!
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No death or will entry found for a Timothy M Pharoah found from 2002 to 2020.

No entry found in any British newspaper for any Timothy Pharaoh for all years.  Sounds like he is still alive.
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Notes for Timothy M & Catherina A (Family)
Their marriage index:

First name(s)       TIMOTHY M
Last name           PHAROAH
Marriage quarter    4
Marriage year       1970
MarriageFinder      TIMOTHY M PHAROAH married one of these people
                    Catherina A Clater
Spouse's last name  Clater
District            Chelsea
County              London
Country             England
Volume              5A
Page number         1383
Record set          England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
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