Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
NameMarjorie Anderson Mann 
[3, Marriage, Q4 of 1925, Chelsea dist, vol 1A, p. 908], [3, Death, Oct 1989, Surrey SE dist, vol 17, reg 1089, p. 1109], [4, 1901 ref: RG13, piece 2302, folio 18, p. 27]
[3, Marriage, Q4 of 1925, Chelsea dist, vol 1A, p. 908], [3, Death, Oct 1989, Surrey SE dist, vol 17, reg 1089, p. 1109], [4, 1901 ref: RG13, piece 2302, folio 18, p. 27]Birth25 Dec 1899
Death28 Oct 1989, Woodhatch, 38 Barrow Green Road, Oxted, Surrey
FatherJohn Mann
Spouses
1William Warren Shaw-Zambra (born Zambra) [3, Marriage, Q4 of 1925, Chelsea dist, vol 1A, p. 908], [4, RG14, piece 3044, other RG78PN107 RD33 SD1 ED17 SN74], [3, Birth, Q1 of 1898, Fulham dist, vol 1A, p. 344], [3, Death, Q1 of 1971, St Albans dist, vol 48, p. 694], [3, 1901 ref: RG11, piece 121, folio 9. p. 9]
[3, Marriage, Q4 of 1925, Chelsea dist, vol 1A, p. 908], [4, RG14, piece 3044, other RG78PN107 RD33 SD1 ED17 SN74], [3, Birth, Q1 of 1898, Fulham dist, vol 1A, p. 344], [3, Death, Q1 of 1971, St Albans dist, vol 48, p. 694], [3, 1901 ref: RG11, piece 121, folio 9. p. 9]FatherJulius James George Zambra (ca1859-1911)
MotherFlorence Beatrice Shaw (1873-ca1959)
Marriage29 Oct 1925, St Columba's church, Pont St, Chelsea, London [3, Marriage, Q4 of 1925, Chelsea dist, vol 1A, p. 908], [5, Their Marriage on 29 Oct 1925 at St Columba's church, Pont Street, Chelsea, London]
ChildrenSusan Veronica (ca1928-)
Christina Marjorie (ca1931-)
Notes for Marjorie Anderson Mann
In 1939 she was living at Woodwatch, Barrow Green Road, Godstone R.D., Surrey, married and with two young, redacted, children and the novelist Naomi Jacob:
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Marjorie A Zambra 25 Dec 1899 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 66 1
The record for this person is officially closed. Can I get around this?
The record for this person is officially closed. Can I get around this?
Agnes B Neilson 25 Nov 1918 Female Piad Domestic Duties Single 66 4
Naomi Jacob 01 Jul 1889 Female Novelist Single 66 5
Ref: RG101/1941A/009/15
This means she was 26 at marriage, and that her busband was much more likely to have been the one born in 1885 and thus 40 at marriage. (In fact he was born in 1898 and thus 27 at marriage.)
She was still living at the same house at her death in 1989.
The two children turn out to have been (1) Susan Victoria and (2) Christina Marjorie.
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Her death index, confirming the birth date given in 1939:
First name(s) MARJORIE ANDERSON
Last name ZAMBRA
Gender Unknown [sic]
Birth day 25
Birth month 12
Birth year 1899
Death quarter 4
Death year 1989
District Surrey South Eastern
Register number 1089
County Surrey
Volume 17
Page 1109
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
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From all the above, this is the only Marjorie born in 1899:
First name(s) MARJORIE
Last name MANN
Birth year 1900
Birth quarter 1
District Yeovil
County Somerset
Country England
Volume 5C
Page 341
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
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And this is the corresponding census entry for 1901 at Wine Vaults), 8, Wine Street, Yeovil, Somerset:
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Mann Head Married Male 39 1862 Wine Merchant Stockton, Durham
Harriett Mann Wife Married Female 33 1868 - Durham
William Mann Son Single Male 6 1895 - India
Nora Mann Daughter Single Female 4 1897 - Bath, Somerset
Marjorie Mann Daughter Single Female 1 1900 - Yeovil, Somerset
Sarah Downton Servant Single Female 22 1879 Nurse (Domestic) Evershot, Dorset
Mary Aldridge Servant Single Female 21 1880 Cook (Domestic) Hinton St George, Somerset
Ref:
Archive reference RG13
Piece number 2302
Folio 18
Page 27
Combined RG13, piece 2302, folio 18, p. 27
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In 1911 she was with the whole same family at 43 Rhosddu Road Wrexham, Wrexham Regis, Denbighshire, Wales and with one extra younger sister.
I cannot account for the subsequent addition of Anderson for her second name.
Perhaps it would be sensible to get hold of her and Warren's marriage certificate to sort out who their fathers were and their ages at marriage. Ordered on 17 Nov 2019. Received on 25 Nov, no surprises, see their marriage Notes.
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Marjorie A Zambra 25 Dec 1899 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 66 1
The record for this person is officially closed. Can I get around this?
The record for this person is officially closed. Can I get around this?
Agnes B Neilson 25 Nov 1918 Female Piad Domestic Duties Single 66 4
Naomi Jacob 01 Jul 1889 Female Novelist Single 66 5
Ref: RG101/1941A/009/15
This means she was 26 at marriage, and that her busband was much more likely to have been the one born in 1885 and thus 40 at marriage. (In fact he was born in 1898 and thus 27 at marriage.)
She was still living at the same house at her death in 1989.
The two children turn out to have been (1) Susan Victoria and (2) Christina Marjorie.
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Her death index, confirming the birth date given in 1939:
First name(s) MARJORIE ANDERSON
Last name ZAMBRA
Gender Unknown [sic]
Birth day 25
Birth month 12
Birth year 1899
Death quarter 4
Death year 1989
District Surrey South Eastern
Register number 1089
County Surrey
Volume 17
Page 1109
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
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From all the above, this is the only Marjorie born in 1899:
First name(s) MARJORIE
Last name MANN
Birth year 1900
Birth quarter 1
District Yeovil
County Somerset
Country England
Volume 5C
Page 341
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
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And this is the corresponding census entry for 1901 at Wine Vaults), 8, Wine Street, Yeovil, Somerset:
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Mann Head Married Male 39 1862 Wine Merchant Stockton, Durham
Harriett Mann Wife Married Female 33 1868 - Durham
William Mann Son Single Male 6 1895 - India
Nora Mann Daughter Single Female 4 1897 - Bath, Somerset
Marjorie Mann Daughter Single Female 1 1900 - Yeovil, Somerset
Sarah Downton Servant Single Female 22 1879 Nurse (Domestic) Evershot, Dorset
Mary Aldridge Servant Single Female 21 1880 Cook (Domestic) Hinton St George, Somerset
Ref:
Archive reference RG13
Piece number 2302
Folio 18
Page 27
Combined RG13, piece 2302, folio 18, p. 27
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In 1911 she was with the whole same family at 43 Rhosddu Road Wrexham, Wrexham Regis, Denbighshire, Wales and with one extra younger sister.
I cannot account for the subsequent addition of Anderson for her second name.
Perhaps it would be sensible to get hold of her and Warren's marriage certificate to sort out who their fathers were and their ages at marriage. Ordered on 17 Nov 2019. Received on 25 Nov, no surprises, see their marriage Notes.
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Will notes for Marjorie Anderson Mann
Her probate index:
ZAMBRA, Marjorie Anderson of Wood Hatch, 38 Barrow Green Road, Oxted Surrey died 28 October 1978 Probate London 15 February £183688 9051110045W
She died at the house she had been living in in 1939.
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ZAMBRA, Marjorie Anderson of Wood Hatch, 38 Barrow Green Road, Oxted Surrey died 28 October 1978 Probate London 15 February £183688 9051110045W
She died at the house she had been living in in 1939.
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Notes for William Warren & Marjorie Anderson (Family)
Their marriage index:
First name(s) WARREN
Last name ZAMBRA
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1925
MarriageFinder WARREN ZAMBRA married one of these people
Marjorie A Mann
Spouse's last name Mann
District Chelsea
County London
Country England
Volume 1A
Page number 908
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
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The marriage certificate from the GRO adds:
Marriage Place: St Columba's church, Pont St, Chelsea, London
Marriage date: 29th October 1925
Register No: 82
His Hers
Names: William Warren Zambra Marjorie Anderson Mann
Age: 27 25
Status: Bachelor Spinster
Job: Manager of Tourist Agency --
Residence: Wrayfield, Reigate Wrayfield, Reigate
Father: Julius James George Zambra John Mann
(deceased)
Father job: Music Publisher K.B.E.
Signed: Warren Zambra Marjorie A Mann
Witnesses: Margaret Mann Florence B Zambra
Rites Church of Scotland
Celebrant: Archibald Fleming DD, Minister
Registrar: Thomas Apted
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First name(s) WARREN
Last name ZAMBRA
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1925
MarriageFinder WARREN ZAMBRA married one of these people
Marjorie A Mann
Spouse's last name Mann
District Chelsea
County London
Country England
Volume 1A
Page number 908
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
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The marriage certificate from the GRO adds:
Marriage Place: St Columba's church, Pont St, Chelsea, London
Marriage date: 29th October 1925
Register No: 82
His Hers
Names: William Warren Zambra Marjorie Anderson Mann
Age: 27 25
Status: Bachelor Spinster
Job: Manager of Tourist Agency --
Residence: Wrayfield, Reigate Wrayfield, Reigate
Father: Julius James George Zambra John Mann
(deceased)
Father job: Music Publisher K.B.E.
Signed: Warren Zambra Marjorie A Mann
Witnesses: Margaret Mann Florence B Zambra
Rites Church of Scotland
Celebrant: Archibald Fleming DD, Minister
Registrar: Thomas Apted
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