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NameJohn Walter Edward Douglas-Scott-Montagu Lord Montagu of Beaulieu 
[62, 107th Edn, pub 2003, Beaulieu article, vol 2, p. 2742-3], [3, Birth, Q3 of 1866, St Geo Han Sq dist, vol 1A, p. 267]
[62, 107th Edn, pub 2003, Beaulieu article, vol 2, p. 2742-3], [3, Birth, Q3 of 1866, St Geo Han Sq dist, vol 1A, p. 267]Birth10 Jun 1866, St George, Hanover Sq district, London
Baptism17 Jul 1866, Westminster Abbey
Death30 Mar 1929, 29 Wimpole St, Marylebone, Middlesex
General1st s., 2nd baron. MP: 1892-1905. Founding Ed of ‘Car Illustrated’. Motoring pioneer. Brig-General: 1918.
EducationEton. New Coll, Oxford.
FatherHenry John Douglas-Scott-Montagu Lord Montagu of Beaulieu (1832-1905)
MotherCecily Susan Stuart-Wortley-Mackenzie (ca1836-1915)
Spouses
Marriage4 Jun 1889, Parish church of St George, Hanover Sq, London [62, 107th edn of 2003, Lothian article, vol 2, pp. 2405], [19, Marriage on 4 Jul 1889 at St Geo church, Han Sq, London]
Marriage10 Aug 1920, St Margaret, Westminster [62, 107th Edn, pub 2003, Beaulieu article, vol 2, p. 2743], [19, Marriage at St Margaret Westminster on 10 Aug 1920], [3, Marriage, Q3 of 1920, St George Han Sq dist, vol 1A, p. 1343]
ChildrenEdward John Barrington (1926-2015)
Mary-Clare (ca1928-2016)
ChildrenJoan (1903-1979)
Notes for John Walter Edward Douglas-Scott-Montagu Lord Montagu of Beaulieu
m. (1) Cecil Victoria Constance Kerr, (2) (Alice) Pearl Crake and a mistress, Eleanor Thornton, the model of The Spirit of Excstacy on R-R cars.
He and his first wife had two daus, he and his second had 1 son and 3 daus and he and his mistress had 1 dau.
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His birth index, note that his father was then still Scott:
First name(s) JOHN W E
Last name MONTAGU-DOUGLAS-SCOTT
Birth year 1866
Birth quarter 3
District St. George Hanover Square
County London
Country England
Volume 1A
Page 267
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
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His baptism transcription:
First name(s) John Walter Edward
Last name Montagu-Douglas-Scott
Gender Male
Baptism year 1866
Baptism date 17 Jul 1866
Place Westminster
County London
Country England
Father's first name(s) Henry John
Father's last name Montagu-Douglas-Scott
Mother's first name(s) Cicely Susan
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
The Fanily Search records adds that it was in the Abbey.
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He and his first wife had two daus, he and his second had 1 son and 3 daus and he and his mistress had 1 dau.
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His birth index, note that his father was then still Scott:
First name(s) JOHN W E
Last name MONTAGU-DOUGLAS-SCOTT
Birth year 1866
Birth quarter 3
District St. George Hanover Square
County London
Country England
Volume 1A
Page 267
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
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His baptism transcription:
First name(s) John Walter Edward
Last name Montagu-Douglas-Scott
Gender Male
Baptism year 1866
Baptism date 17 Jul 1866
Place Westminster
County London
Country England
Father's first name(s) Henry John
Father's last name Montagu-Douglas-Scott
Mother's first name(s) Cicely Susan
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
The Fanily Search records adds that it was in the Abbey.
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Will notes for John Walter Edward Douglas-Scott-Montagu Lord Montagu of Beaulieu
His probate index:
baron MONTAGU of Beaulieu the right honourable John Walter Edward of the Palace House Beaulieu Hampshire died 30 March 1929 at 29 Wimpole-street Marylebone Middlesex Probate (save and except settled land) London 21 September to the right honourable Henry William baron Forster sir Thomas herbert Cochrane Tronbridge baronet Geoffrey Marks esquire and John Mills retired major H.M. aarmy.
Effects £65224 13s. 1d. Further Grant 2 November 1929.
Resqorn £6559-4-2
Further Grant (to S.L.) 10th June 1948.
and
baron MONTAGU of Beaulieu the right honourable John Walter Edward of the Palace House Beaulieu Hampshire died 30 March 1929 at 29 Wimpole-street Marylebone Middlesex Probate (limited to settled land) London 21 September to the London 2 November to the right honourable Henry William baron Forster sir Thomas herbert Cochrane Tronbridge baronet. Effects £86000
Former Grant P.R. 21 September 1929.
Further Grant (?? to S.L.) 10th June 1948.
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baron MONTAGU of Beaulieu the right honourable John Walter Edward of the Palace House Beaulieu Hampshire died 30 March 1929 at 29 Wimpole-street Marylebone Middlesex Probate (save and except settled land) London 21 September to the right honourable Henry William baron Forster sir Thomas herbert Cochrane Tronbridge baronet Geoffrey Marks esquire and John Mills retired major H.M. aarmy.
Effects £65224 13s. 1d. Further Grant 2 November 1929.
Resqorn £6559-4-2
Further Grant (to S.L.) 10th June 1948.
and
baron MONTAGU of Beaulieu the right honourable John Walter Edward of the Palace House Beaulieu Hampshire died 30 March 1929 at 29 Wimpole-street Marylebone Middlesex Probate (limited to settled land) London 21 September to the London 2 November to the right honourable Henry William baron Forster sir Thomas herbert Cochrane Tronbridge baronet. Effects £86000
Former Grant P.R. 21 September 1929.
Further Grant (?? to S.L.) 10th June 1948.
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Notes for John Walter Edward & Cecil Victoria Constance (Family)
The transcription of the church register:
First name(s) John Walter Edward Douglas
Last name Scott-Montagu
Age 22
Birth year 1867
Residence -
Marriage year 1889
Parish St George, Hanover Square
Spouse's first name(s) Cecil Victoria Constance
Spouse's last name Kerr
Spouse's age 23
Spouse's birth year 1866
Spouse residence -
County Middlesex
Country England
Archive City of Westminster Archives Centre
Record set Westminster Marriages
The image of the register page makes it clear that this was at the parish church of St Geo Han Sq and:
Reg No: 428
Date: June 4 1889
His name: John Walter Edward Douglas Scott-Montagu
His age: 23
Status: Bachelor
Rank: The Honourable
Abode: 3 Tilney St
Father: Henry John Scott-Montagu
Fr rank: Baron Montagu of Beaulieu
Her name: Cecil Victoria Constance kerr
Her age: 23
Status: Spinster
Rank: Peer’s daughter
Abode: 39 Grosvenor Square
Father: Schomberg Henry Kerr
Fr Rank: Marquess of Lothian
Authority: By Licence
Witnesses: Salisbury, Montagu, Lothian, L J Buccleuch & Queensbury D, Donald Lamnon of Lochiel
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The marriage index:
First name(s) JOHN WALTER E D
Last name SCOTT-MONTAGU
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1889
MarriageFinder™ JOHN WALTER E D SCOTT-MONTAGU married one of these people
Tacy Mary Hill, Cecil Victoria Kerr, Augustus Sales
District St. George Hanover Square
County London
Country England
Volume 1A
Page 724
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
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First name(s) John Walter Edward Douglas
Last name Scott-Montagu
Age 22
Birth year 1867
Residence -
Marriage year 1889
Parish St George, Hanover Square
Spouse's first name(s) Cecil Victoria Constance
Spouse's last name Kerr
Spouse's age 23
Spouse's birth year 1866
Spouse residence -
County Middlesex
Country England
Archive City of Westminster Archives Centre
Record set Westminster Marriages
The image of the register page makes it clear that this was at the parish church of St Geo Han Sq and:
Reg No: 428
Date: June 4 1889
His name: John Walter Edward Douglas Scott-Montagu
His age: 23
Status: Bachelor
Rank: The Honourable
Abode: 3 Tilney St
Father: Henry John Scott-Montagu
Fr rank: Baron Montagu of Beaulieu
Her name: Cecil Victoria Constance kerr
Her age: 23
Status: Spinster
Rank: Peer’s daughter
Abode: 39 Grosvenor Square
Father: Schomberg Henry Kerr
Fr Rank: Marquess of Lothian
Authority: By Licence
Witnesses: Salisbury, Montagu, Lothian, L J Buccleuch & Queensbury D, Donald Lamnon of Lochiel
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The marriage index:
First name(s) JOHN WALTER E D
Last name SCOTT-MONTAGU
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1889
MarriageFinder™ JOHN WALTER E D SCOTT-MONTAGU married one of these people
Tacy Mary Hill, Cecil Victoria Kerr, Augustus Sales
District St. George Hanover Square
County London
Country England
Volume 1A
Page 724
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
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Notes for John Walter Edward & (Alice) Pearl (Family)
Transcription of their church marriage:
First name(s) John Walter Edward Douglas Scott
Last name Montagu
Age 54
Birth year 1866
Residence -
Marriage year 1920
Parish St Margaret, Westminster
Spouse's first name(s) Alice Pearl
Spouse's last name Crake
Spouse's age 25
Spouse's birth year 1895
Spouse residence -
County Middlesex
Country England
Archive City of Westminster Archives Centre
Record set Westminster Marriages
The image of the register includes:
Location: The parish church of St Margaret, Westminster, London
Register No: 284
Date” August 10 1920
His name: John Walter Edward Douglas-Scott-Montage Lord Montagu pf Beaulieu
His age: 54
Status: Widower
Rank: Peer of the Realm
Abode: Palace of Westminster, SW
Father: Henry John Douglas-Scott-Montagu Lord Montagu of Beaulieu (deceased)
Fr rank: Peer of the realm
Her name: Alice Pearl Crake
Her age: 25
Status: Spinster
Job: -
Abode: 29, South Street, Thurloe Square SW
Father: Barrington Crake (deceased)
Fr job: Major, Rifle Brigade.
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Their marriage index:
First name(s) JOHN W E D S
Last name MONTAGU OF BEAULIEU
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1920
Spouse's last name Crake
District St. George Hanover Square
County London
Country England
Volume 1A
Page 1343
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
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First name(s) John Walter Edward Douglas Scott
Last name Montagu
Age 54
Birth year 1866
Residence -
Marriage year 1920
Parish St Margaret, Westminster
Spouse's first name(s) Alice Pearl
Spouse's last name Crake
Spouse's age 25
Spouse's birth year 1895
Spouse residence -
County Middlesex
Country England
Archive City of Westminster Archives Centre
Record set Westminster Marriages
The image of the register includes:
Location: The parish church of St Margaret, Westminster, London
Register No: 284
Date” August 10 1920
His name: John Walter Edward Douglas-Scott-Montage Lord Montagu pf Beaulieu
His age: 54
Status: Widower
Rank: Peer of the Realm
Abode: Palace of Westminster, SW
Father: Henry John Douglas-Scott-Montagu Lord Montagu of Beaulieu (deceased)
Fr rank: Peer of the realm
Her name: Alice Pearl Crake
Her age: 25
Status: Spinster
Job: -
Abode: 29, South Street, Thurloe Square SW
Father: Barrington Crake (deceased)
Fr job: Major, Rifle Brigade.
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Their marriage index:
First name(s) JOHN W E D S
Last name MONTAGU OF BEAULIEU
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1920
Spouse's last name Crake
District St. George Hanover Square
County London
Country England
Volume 1A
Page 1343
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
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