Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
NameMarguerite Thorold 
[4, 1891 census at Lower Sermour St, M’bone; RG12 piece 94, folio 172, p. 12], [62, 107th Edition of 2003, Thorold baronetcy, vol III, p. 3899]
[4, 1891 census at Lower Sermour St, M’bone; RG12 piece 94, folio 172, p. 12], [62, 107th Edition of 2003, Thorold baronetcy, vol III, p. 3899]Birth16 Aug 1876, Boothby Pagnell, Lincolns
Death9 Jan 1958
GeneralSole dau. and heir. (No death record found.)
FatherCecil Thorold (1847-1895)
MotherAnnie Charlotte Claremont (1853-1913)
Spouses
1Maurice Raymond Gifford CMG [3, Their marriage, Q3 of 1897, St Geo han Sq dist, vol 1a, p. 998], [62, 107th Edition of 2003, Thorold baronetcy, vol III, p. 3899], [62, 107th Edition of 2003, Gifford barony, vol II, p. 1548], [60, Gifford article, Vol XIV, p. 338], [3, Death, Q3 of 1910, Ware dist, vol 3a, p. 253], [3, Birth, Q2 of 1859, Cirencester dist, vol 6a, 317]
[3, Their marriage, Q3 of 1897, St Geo han Sq dist, vol 1a, p. 998], [62, 107th Edition of 2003, Thorold baronetcy, vol III, p. 3899], [62, 107th Edition of 2003, Gifford barony, vol II, p. 1548], [60, Gifford article, Vol XIV, p. 338], [3, Death, Q3 of 1910, Ware dist, vol 3a, p. 253], [3, Birth, Q2 of 1859, Cirencester dist, vol 6a, 317]Marriage21 Sep 1897, St George, Hanover Sq district, London [3, Their marriage, Q3 of 1897, St Geo Han Sq dist, vol 1a, p. 998], [62, 107th Edition of 2003, Thorold baronetcy, vol III, p. 3899]
ChildrenCharles Maurice Elton (1899-1961)
Diana Frederica (1901-1979)
Joan (ca1903-1968)
Vera May (ca1906-1936)
Notes for Marguerite Thorold
m. (1) Maurice Gifford, (2), on 20 Apr 1920, George Raynor who d. 19 Feb 1941.
This looks like her birth on FreeBMD:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Sep 1876 (>99%)
Thorold Marguerite Grantham 7a 470
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In the 1901 census she was at Boothby Hall, Boothby, obviously inherited from her father. Her husband was not there but she had a son Charles M E Gifford who was 2 and born at Boothby Pagnell. She had ten servants living in the house.
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FreeBMD shows the same four children as on the Wetherall pedigree:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Mar 1899
Gifford Charles Maurice E Grantham 7a 465
Births Mar 1902
Gifford Diana Frederica Grantham 7a 466a
Births Sep 1903
Gifford Joan Grantham 7a 461
Births Jun 1906
Gifford Vera May Grantham 7a 469
There are no more after 1906, which tends to confirm the FreeBMD death of their father Maurice in 1910.
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Not her death index, with odd forename, as in 1939 the same woman was married to a printers foreman in Harrow and born in 1876:
First name(s) BERTHA M
Last name GIFFORD
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1877
Age 81
Death quarter 1
Death year 1958
District Harrow
County Middlesex
Volume 5F
Page 431
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
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None of the entries in the 1939 register look like her.
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I wonder if she settled in South Africa?
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On second thoughts, was this a second marriage:
First name(s) MARGUERITE L
Last name RAYNOR
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1946
MarriageFinder™ MARGUERITE L RAYNOR married
Frederick W Ballamy
Spouse's last name Ballamy
District Luton
County Bedfordshire
Country England
Volume 3B
Page 1112
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
But it still does not lead to a death in 1958.
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This looks like her birth on FreeBMD:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Sep 1876 (>99%)
Thorold Marguerite Grantham 7a 470
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In the 1901 census she was at Boothby Hall, Boothby, obviously inherited from her father. Her husband was not there but she had a son Charles M E Gifford who was 2 and born at Boothby Pagnell. She had ten servants living in the house.
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FreeBMD shows the same four children as on the Wetherall pedigree:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Mar 1899
Gifford Charles Maurice E Grantham 7a 465
Births Mar 1902
Gifford Diana Frederica Grantham 7a 466a
Births Sep 1903
Gifford Joan Grantham 7a 461
Births Jun 1906
Gifford Vera May Grantham 7a 469
There are no more after 1906, which tends to confirm the FreeBMD death of their father Maurice in 1910.
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Not her death index, with odd forename, as in 1939 the same woman was married to a printers foreman in Harrow and born in 1876:
First name(s) BERTHA M
Last name GIFFORD
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1877
Age 81
Death quarter 1
Death year 1958
District Harrow
County Middlesex
Volume 5F
Page 431
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
______________
None of the entries in the 1939 register look like her.
______________
I wonder if she settled in South Africa?
______________
On second thoughts, was this a second marriage:
First name(s) MARGUERITE L
Last name RAYNOR
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1946
MarriageFinder™ MARGUERITE L RAYNOR married
Frederick W Ballamy
Spouse's last name Ballamy
District Luton
County Bedfordshire
Country England
Volume 3B
Page 1112
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
But it still does not lead to a death in 1958.
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