Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
NameGeneral Edward Charles John Claremont CB (born Stopford) 
[316, His wife Frances Wetherall’s article, pp. 39-40], [13, His obituary notice published on 17 Jul 1890]
[316, His wife Frances Wetherall’s article, pp. 39-40], [13, His obituary notice published on 17 Jul 1890]Birth23 Jan 1819, Paris
BaptismThe chapel of the British Embassy, Paris
Death16 Jul 1890, Paris
General1881: Gen. 1855: CB. Legion of Honour, 3rd class. Groom of Privy Chamber to Q. V.
FatherLt-Gen Sir Edward Stopford KGCB (1766-1837)
MotherAnais Pauline Nathalie Aubert (ca1800-1871)
Spouses
Marriage14 Oct 1843, Doncaster parish church, Yorks [316, Her article, pp. 39-40], [3, Their marriage, Q4 of 1843, Doncaster dist, vol 22, p. 62], [13, Their marriage notice on 19 Oct 1843], [5, Certificate No 76 for 1842 of the parish church, Doncaster, Yorks]
ChildrenGeorge William Frederick (1844-ca1891)
Emily Fanny (1846-ca1896)
Edward MacDougal Stopford (1847-ca1935)
Henry Alexander Stopford (1848-1894)
Annie Charlotte (1853-1913)
Olivia G Louisa (1858-)
Notes for General Edward Charles John Claremont CB (born Stopford)
His parentage is known only from his father’s will where he was explicitly named as his son and as the principal beneficiary. This makes him a Powys descendant.
He was baptised as Edward Charles John Stopford but after the Act of Parliament to naturalise him, he was known as Edward Stopford Claremont.
His marriage was in Doncaster; the certificate has been ordered to see what additional information it provides.
June, 2009, TFPL: the marriage certificate tells very little. His father was entered as “Edward Claremont, General in the Army” with no mention that he was deceased, let alone that this was not his surname. He was a bachelor and a Lieutenant in the Royal Regt of Foot (I had the impression that officers had to be Captains to be allowed to be married in those days...) The witnesses were a load of Wetheralls plus one or two others whose names I am not sure of.
He had a distinguished military career and was Military Attache in Paris for 13 years, being a favourite of the Emperor Napoleon III.
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TNA has some information about an act to Naturalise him in 1836, when he was 17 or so:
Private Act (Not Printed), 6 & 7 William IV, c. 47 HL/PO/PB/1/1836/6&7W4n103 1836
These documents are held at Parliamentary Archives
Contents:
An Act for naturalizing Edward Stopford Claremont.
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{I wonder if he and his wife separated? The evidence is (a) his death in Paris and (b) the complete absence of him on all English censuses.)
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Harts Army list of 1888 shows him as full general in Beds Regt and a Companion of the Bath. The same Harts also showed him as Colonel of the Beds regt, giving his military career:
Ensign: 9 Feb 1838,
Lieut: 16 July 1841, (In Times of 17 Jul 1841, quoting London Gazette of 16 Jul 1841)
Capt: 14 Nov 1845,
Major: 12 Dec 1854, (In London Gazette and The Times of that date)
Lt Col: 14 Sep 1855,
Col: 14 Sep 1858
Maj-Gen: 6 Mar 1868,
Lt-Gen: 1 Oct 1877 (In London Gazette on 2 Oct 1877 and in The Times on 3 Oct 1877)
General: 1 Jul 1881.
The Times reported his appointment as Colonel of the Beds regt on 14 Mar 1883.
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In the Army List of 1878 he was classified as a Lt General with a pay of £1-5s-0d a day, £456 per annum (not much).
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In the 1840 Harts Army List he was an ensign in the 1st (or Royal) Regiment of Foot, with three years service at full pay and appointed on 9 Feb 1938 (agrees with above).
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In the Times of 10 Nov 1869, it was announced that the Queen had given her permission for him to wear the Insignia of the French Legion of Honour, third class (whatever that may be), as awarded him by the Emperor.
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In the Times of 27 Jul 1881, quoting the London Gazette of 26 July, there was this notice:
“The undermentioned General officers are placed upon the Retired List from 1st July 1881, with a step of honorary rank, under the provision so Articles 106, 107, and 124 of the Royal Warrant of 25th June 1881:
“Lieutenant-Generals:- ... Edward Stopford Claremont, C.B. ...”
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The Times had this obituary notice on 17 Jul 1890:
Our Paris Correspondent telegraphed last night: “General Edward Stopford Claremont, C.B., who was for 25 years military attaché to the British Embassy here, died this afternoon. His death will be regretted by many friends in England and on the Continent. General Claremont was with General Pelissier in the Crimea, and he witnessed the Italian campaign of 1859, as also the Franco-German war of 1870. He was one of the grooms of the Privy Chamber to the Queen, and was the first military attaché appointed to any embassy.”
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He was baptised as Edward Charles John Stopford but after the Act of Parliament to naturalise him, he was known as Edward Stopford Claremont.
His marriage was in Doncaster; the certificate has been ordered to see what additional information it provides.
June, 2009, TFPL: the marriage certificate tells very little. His father was entered as “Edward Claremont, General in the Army” with no mention that he was deceased, let alone that this was not his surname. He was a bachelor and a Lieutenant in the Royal Regt of Foot (I had the impression that officers had to be Captains to be allowed to be married in those days...) The witnesses were a load of Wetheralls plus one or two others whose names I am not sure of.
He had a distinguished military career and was Military Attache in Paris for 13 years, being a favourite of the Emperor Napoleon III.
____________________________________
TNA has some information about an act to Naturalise him in 1836, when he was 17 or so:
Private Act (Not Printed), 6 & 7 William IV, c. 47 HL/PO/PB/1/1836/6&7W4n103 1836
These documents are held at Parliamentary Archives
Contents:
An Act for naturalizing Edward Stopford Claremont.
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{I wonder if he and his wife separated? The evidence is (a) his death in Paris and (b) the complete absence of him on all English censuses.)
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Harts Army list of 1888 shows him as full general in Beds Regt and a Companion of the Bath. The same Harts also showed him as Colonel of the Beds regt, giving his military career:
Ensign: 9 Feb 1838,
Lieut: 16 July 1841, (In Times of 17 Jul 1841, quoting London Gazette of 16 Jul 1841)
Capt: 14 Nov 1845,
Major: 12 Dec 1854, (In London Gazette and The Times of that date)
Lt Col: 14 Sep 1855,
Col: 14 Sep 1858
Maj-Gen: 6 Mar 1868,
Lt-Gen: 1 Oct 1877 (In London Gazette on 2 Oct 1877 and in The Times on 3 Oct 1877)
General: 1 Jul 1881.
The Times reported his appointment as Colonel of the Beds regt on 14 Mar 1883.
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In the Army List of 1878 he was classified as a Lt General with a pay of £1-5s-0d a day, £456 per annum (not much).
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In the 1840 Harts Army List he was an ensign in the 1st (or Royal) Regiment of Foot, with three years service at full pay and appointed on 9 Feb 1938 (agrees with above).
_____________________
In the Times of 10 Nov 1869, it was announced that the Queen had given her permission for him to wear the Insignia of the French Legion of Honour, third class (whatever that may be), as awarded him by the Emperor.
_____________________
In the Times of 27 Jul 1881, quoting the London Gazette of 26 July, there was this notice:
“The undermentioned General officers are placed upon the Retired List from 1st July 1881, with a step of honorary rank, under the provision so Articles 106, 107, and 124 of the Royal Warrant of 25th June 1881:
“Lieutenant-Generals:- ... Edward Stopford Claremont, C.B. ...”
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The Times had this obituary notice on 17 Jul 1890:
Our Paris Correspondent telegraphed last night: “General Edward Stopford Claremont, C.B., who was for 25 years military attaché to the British Embassy here, died this afternoon. His death will be regretted by many friends in England and on the Continent. General Claremont was with General Pelissier in the Crimea, and he witnessed the Italian campaign of 1859, as also the Franco-German war of 1870. He was one of the grooms of the Privy Chamber to the Queen, and was the first military attaché appointed to any embassy.”
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Notes for Edward Charles John & Frances Charlotte (Family)
They were married by licence; I am not getting a copy of this, though.
On their marriage certificate they were both of full age and bachelor and spinster. He was a Lieut of the Royal Regt of Foot, living at South parade; she was living there too. His father’s name was given as Edward Claremont, General in the army; her father was George Augustus Wetherall, Colonel in the Army. Of the witnesses, five were wetheralls, one was an Anderson and one a Hildyard.
On their marriage certificate they were both of full age and bachelor and spinster. He was a Lieut of the Royal Regt of Foot, living at South parade; she was living there too. His father’s name was given as Edward Claremont, General in the army; her father was George Augustus Wetherall, Colonel in the Army. Of the witnesses, five were wetheralls, one was an Anderson and one a Hildyard.