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NameWalter Scrimgeour 
[365, Walter Scrimgeour’s chapter], [73, Scrimgeour earls of Dundee article, vol 3, p. 310]
[365, Walter Scrimgeour’s chapter], [73, Scrimgeour earls of Dundee article, vol 3, p. 310]Birthca 1495
Deathbef 25 Jul 1544, Of the Plague at Dundee, Scotland
General3rd s. of Glasswell. Provost of Dundee: 1543.
FatherJohn Scrimgeour (-1513)
MotherJanet Ogilvy
Notes for Walter Scrimgeour
Walter Scrymgeour of Glasswell (1495c - 1544)
The name Walter was not a normal choice for the families of the Constables of Dundee or their cadets. It is quite feasible that this third son of Master John, was named after his late uncle, Walter Ogston of that Ilk.
An early entry in the Guildry Book or "Lockit Book" of Dundee records that on 12 November 1526 Walter Scrymgeour son of Master John Scrymgeour "of Glaistre" was admitted as a burgess of Dundee, gratis.
Walter was probably resident in the Kirriemuir / Kingoldrum area at this time, for on 24 September 1526 in a Precept of Sasine on the lands of Kinnaniel to John Wishart of Logie, Walter Scrymgeour acted as the Abbot of Aberbrothock's bailie in that part. Wishart Logie borders with the south part of Glasswell.
This, Walter Scrymgeour, the burgess of Dundee, and his wife Katherine Murray took possession of the sunny (south) part of lands of Glasswell and Torbirns, multures etc. in the Regality of Kirriemuir when Henry Kempt of Thomastoun resigned these. This was confirmed by the King on first day of March 1530 and from then on Walter was designed "of Glasswell".
Walter and Katherine married about 1525. Katherine was a grandchild of the aforementioned Andrew Murray of Cullow and Glasswell. She and her sister Elisabeth (Bessie) Murray were joint heiresses of the Murray estate. Katherine seems to have held considerable shares of land and to have brought them with her in marriage.
Walter and Katherine had issue:
1. †
2. James son and heir, born about 1528 and still a minor when Walter died in 1544, more of whom later
3. †
4. Janet married Thomas Melville, the heir apparent of Alexander Melville of Dysart in 1538.
5. †
6. Isabel , born circa 1528 married around 1545 to Richard Melville (1522 - 1575) of Baldovie, an Angus laird who was admitted minister by the Assembly of December 1560. He served the parish of Maryton. They had three sons and three daughters. Isabel died in 1557. Their third son James (1556 - 1614) was a notable Scottish Reformer. His diary and autobiography yield a wonderful light on this talented family and the attitudes and mobility of the Scottish lairds during the sixteenth century.
The family tree of the lairds of Glasswell is shown at Appendix 2
Walter became involved in the business affairs of Dundee .The beginnings of the Reformation were taking hold there at that time and on 31st August 1543 a body of men led by Mr Henry Durham plundered and destroyed some of the property of two friaries in Dundee. Iconoclasm was the intent of the attack in order to destroy images, candlesticks, vestments and other ornaments. It appears that many of those in the mob later failed to answer their citation for trial. Walter Scrymgeour had provided surety of £60 for the appearance of John Ferrier, a weaver accused of involvement in the Black Friars attack and subsequently forfeited this bond. For the same incident, a John Lyell also failed to appear and John Scrymgeour of Glassary, heir apparent of Dudhope, forfeited 500 merks for the surety he had promised. James Scrymgeour of Dudhope, Constable of Dundee was abroad for the benefit of his health at the time but during his absence from Scotland, Mr Henry Durham, the leader of the "riot" was one of his close associates who had been given royal protection throughout that period.
Clearly, the Scrymgeour family was openly sympathetic to the calls for reform of the church and for the release of Rome's hold on politics.
Presumably this support for the demand for reformation was pivotal to Walter Scrymgeour being appointed Provost of Dundee on 20 November 1543, only a few weeks after this "Dundee heresie". However, Walter did not live to see the Reformation brought into effect for he died in 1544, after only a short time as Provost. He may have been a victim of the plague that afflicted Dundee that summer. His death was before 25 July 1544 for on that date Mr Henry Lauder was granted the gift of the ward of the lands of the late Walter and the marriage of his son and heir.
Katherine Murray survived Walter and married secondly to John Dempster of Auchterless. She also survived him and was still alive in 1569. Katherine continued as fiar of Glasswell and played an important role in the estate for many more years.
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The name Walter was not a normal choice for the families of the Constables of Dundee or their cadets. It is quite feasible that this third son of Master John, was named after his late uncle, Walter Ogston of that Ilk.
An early entry in the Guildry Book or "Lockit Book" of Dundee records that on 12 November 1526 Walter Scrymgeour son of Master John Scrymgeour "of Glaistre" was admitted as a burgess of Dundee, gratis.
Walter was probably resident in the Kirriemuir / Kingoldrum area at this time, for on 24 September 1526 in a Precept of Sasine on the lands of Kinnaniel to John Wishart of Logie, Walter Scrymgeour acted as the Abbot of Aberbrothock's bailie in that part. Wishart Logie borders with the south part of Glasswell.
This, Walter Scrymgeour, the burgess of Dundee, and his wife Katherine Murray took possession of the sunny (south) part of lands of Glasswell and Torbirns, multures etc. in the Regality of Kirriemuir when Henry Kempt of Thomastoun resigned these. This was confirmed by the King on first day of March 1530 and from then on Walter was designed "of Glasswell".
Walter and Katherine married about 1525. Katherine was a grandchild of the aforementioned Andrew Murray of Cullow and Glasswell. She and her sister Elisabeth (Bessie) Murray were joint heiresses of the Murray estate. Katherine seems to have held considerable shares of land and to have brought them with her in marriage.
Walter and Katherine had issue:
1. †
2. James son and heir, born about 1528 and still a minor when Walter died in 1544, more of whom later
3. †
4. Janet married Thomas Melville, the heir apparent of Alexander Melville of Dysart in 1538.
5. †
6. Isabel , born circa 1528 married around 1545 to Richard Melville (1522 - 1575) of Baldovie, an Angus laird who was admitted minister by the Assembly of December 1560. He served the parish of Maryton. They had three sons and three daughters. Isabel died in 1557. Their third son James (1556 - 1614) was a notable Scottish Reformer. His diary and autobiography yield a wonderful light on this talented family and the attitudes and mobility of the Scottish lairds during the sixteenth century.
The family tree of the lairds of Glasswell is shown at Appendix 2
Walter became involved in the business affairs of Dundee .The beginnings of the Reformation were taking hold there at that time and on 31st August 1543 a body of men led by Mr Henry Durham plundered and destroyed some of the property of two friaries in Dundee. Iconoclasm was the intent of the attack in order to destroy images, candlesticks, vestments and other ornaments. It appears that many of those in the mob later failed to answer their citation for trial. Walter Scrymgeour had provided surety of £60 for the appearance of John Ferrier, a weaver accused of involvement in the Black Friars attack and subsequently forfeited this bond. For the same incident, a John Lyell also failed to appear and John Scrymgeour of Glassary, heir apparent of Dudhope, forfeited 500 merks for the surety he had promised. James Scrymgeour of Dudhope, Constable of Dundee was abroad for the benefit of his health at the time but during his absence from Scotland, Mr Henry Durham, the leader of the "riot" was one of his close associates who had been given royal protection throughout that period.
Clearly, the Scrymgeour family was openly sympathetic to the calls for reform of the church and for the release of Rome's hold on politics.
Presumably this support for the demand for reformation was pivotal to Walter Scrymgeour being appointed Provost of Dundee on 20 November 1543, only a few weeks after this "Dundee heresie". However, Walter did not live to see the Reformation brought into effect for he died in 1544, after only a short time as Provost. He may have been a victim of the plague that afflicted Dundee that summer. His death was before 25 July 1544 for on that date Mr Henry Lauder was granted the gift of the ward of the lands of the late Walter and the marriage of his son and heir.
Katherine Murray survived Walter and married secondly to John Dempster of Auchterless. She also survived him and was still alive in 1569. Katherine continued as fiar of Glasswell and played an important role in the estate for many more years.
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