Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
NameRoger Salwey 
[3, His birth, Q4 of 1869, Ludlow dist, vol 6a, p. 546], [27, 1879, Salwey article, Vol II, p. 1406], [3, Death, Q1 of 1962, Ludlow dist, vol 9a, p. 158]
[3, His birth, Q4 of 1869, Ludlow dist, vol 6a, p. 546], [27, 1879, Salwey article, Vol II, p. 1406], [3, Death, Q1 of 1962, Ludlow dist, vol 9a, p. 158]Birth28 Oct 1869, Ludlow district, Salop
Deathca Feb 1962, Ludlow district, Salop
GeneralOnly s.
FatherAlfred Salwey (1841-ca1902)
MotherMargaret Frances Salwey (ca1840-ca1909)
Spouses
Marriageca Aug 1908, Church Stretton district, Salop [3, Marriage, Q3 of 1908, Ch Stretton dist, vol 6a, p. 295]
No Children
Notes for Roger Salwey
A Roger Salwey m. in Q3 of 1908 in Church Stretton but neither FreeBMD nor The Genealogist also show the wife, so I’m not sure if this is he:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1908 (>99%)
SALWEY Roger Ch. Stretton 6a 1295
Church Stretton is in Shropshire.
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But in 1911 the census gives the forenames of his bride:
Surname Forename Age Gender Relation Marriage Status
Years Married Occupation Birth Place
Salwey Roger 41 Male Head Married 2 None Private Means Richards Castle, Shropshire
Salwey Alice Violet 30 Female Wife Married 2 Gamston, Nottinghamshire
Arthur Hannah 34 Female Servant Single - Cook (Domestic) Boughton, Northamptonshire
Everall Edith Mary 24 Female Servant Single - House Parlourmaid (Domestic) Whitbourne, Worcestershire
James Lilian Mildred 15 Female Servant Single - Between Girl General (Domestic) Culmington, Shropshire
Reference: RG14 - PN15876 RD342 SD2 ED9 SN21
Address: Overton, Ludlow
Registration District: Ludlow
Sub District: Ludlow
Civil Parish: Richards Castle
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The first search was to see if Alice Violet was living at Church Stretton, Shropshire in the 1901 census. This returned four plain Alices but no Alice V or Alice Violet:
Alice Johnson
. . . Age : 20 ... Born in : 1881 ...
. . . Mother's Help ...
. . . House Keeper ... Birth county : Shropshire ... Wellington ... Church Stretton, All Stretton ...
. . . Threshold Farm ... R_2514 ... Church Stretton ...
Alice Lewis
. . . Age : 18 ... Born in : 1883 ...
. . . Servant ...
. . . Cook Domestic ... Birth county : Shropshire ... Radington ... Church Stretton ...
. . . Barway House ... R_2513 ... Church Stretton ...
Alice Clarke
. . . Age : 20 ... Born in : 1881 ...
. . . Servant ...
. . . Parlourmaid Domestic ... Birth county : Middlesex ... Stepney ... Little Stretton ...
. . . Minton ... R_2514 ... Church Stretton ...
Alice Broxton
. . . Age : 22 ... Born in : 1879 ...
. . . Niece ...
. . . Birth county : Shropshire ... Bayston Hill ... Wistanstow ...
. . . The Whettals ... R_2514 ... Church Stretton ...
Alice Moreton
. . . Age : 22 ... Born in : 1879 ...
. . . Daughter ...
. . . Birth county : Cheshire ... Wimholdsley ... Acton Scott ...
. . . Acton Scott ... R_2514 ... Church Stretton ...
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The next search for his wife was for her birth record in the index using FreeBMD:
This turned up but one candidate:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Sep 1880 (>99%)
Champion Alice Violet E. Retford 7b 14
And the Gamston for her birth place is indeed a parish within the registration district of East Retford. Sounds like Bingo!
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And then a search for an Alice Champion born in c.1880 produceed this in the 1901 census:
Surname Forename Age Relation Occupation Birth Place
Champion Alice V 20 Visitor Retford, Nottinghamshire
She was satying with a family called Healing, millers and land owners in Oldfield, tewkesbury, Glos. I think this all confirms the wife’s name well enough.
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And after all that labour no births could be found on FreeBMD for any children with surname of Salwey and mother’s maiden name of Champion. Perhaps he was sterile from his parents being first cousins?
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His death:
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Mar 1962 (>99%)
SALWEY Roger 92 Ludlow 9a 158
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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1908 (>99%)
SALWEY Roger Ch. Stretton 6a 1295
Church Stretton is in Shropshire.
______________
But in 1911 the census gives the forenames of his bride:
Surname Forename Age Gender Relation Marriage Status
Years Married Occupation Birth Place
Salwey Roger 41 Male Head Married 2 None Private Means Richards Castle, Shropshire
Salwey Alice Violet 30 Female Wife Married 2 Gamston, Nottinghamshire
Arthur Hannah 34 Female Servant Single - Cook (Domestic) Boughton, Northamptonshire
Everall Edith Mary 24 Female Servant Single - House Parlourmaid (Domestic) Whitbourne, Worcestershire
James Lilian Mildred 15 Female Servant Single - Between Girl General (Domestic) Culmington, Shropshire
Reference: RG14 - PN15876 RD342 SD2 ED9 SN21
Address: Overton, Ludlow
Registration District: Ludlow
Sub District: Ludlow
Civil Parish: Richards Castle
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The first search was to see if Alice Violet was living at Church Stretton, Shropshire in the 1901 census. This returned four plain Alices but no Alice V or Alice Violet:
Alice Johnson
. . . Age : 20 ... Born in : 1881 ...
. . . Mother's Help ...
. . . House Keeper ... Birth county : Shropshire ... Wellington ... Church Stretton, All Stretton ...
. . . Threshold Farm ... R_2514 ... Church Stretton ...
Alice Lewis
. . . Age : 18 ... Born in : 1883 ...
. . . Servant ...
. . . Cook Domestic ... Birth county : Shropshire ... Radington ... Church Stretton ...
. . . Barway House ... R_2513 ... Church Stretton ...
Alice Clarke
. . . Age : 20 ... Born in : 1881 ...
. . . Servant ...
. . . Parlourmaid Domestic ... Birth county : Middlesex ... Stepney ... Little Stretton ...
. . . Minton ... R_2514 ... Church Stretton ...
Alice Broxton
. . . Age : 22 ... Born in : 1879 ...
. . . Niece ...
. . . Birth county : Shropshire ... Bayston Hill ... Wistanstow ...
. . . The Whettals ... R_2514 ... Church Stretton ...
Alice Moreton
. . . Age : 22 ... Born in : 1879 ...
. . . Daughter ...
. . . Birth county : Cheshire ... Wimholdsley ... Acton Scott ...
. . . Acton Scott ... R_2514 ... Church Stretton ...
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The next search for his wife was for her birth record in the index using FreeBMD:
This turned up but one candidate:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Sep 1880 (>99%)
Champion Alice Violet E. Retford 7b 14
And the Gamston for her birth place is indeed a parish within the registration district of East Retford. Sounds like Bingo!
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And then a search for an Alice Champion born in c.1880 produceed this in the 1901 census:
Surname Forename Age Relation Occupation Birth Place
Champion Alice V 20 Visitor Retford, Nottinghamshire
She was satying with a family called Healing, millers and land owners in Oldfield, tewkesbury, Glos. I think this all confirms the wife’s name well enough.
______________
And after all that labour no births could be found on FreeBMD for any children with surname of Salwey and mother’s maiden name of Champion. Perhaps he was sterile from his parents being first cousins?
_______________
His death:
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Mar 1962 (>99%)
SALWEY Roger 92 Ludlow 9a 158
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Notes for Roger & Alice Violet (Family)
Her marriage registration date:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1908 (>99%)
CHAMPION Alice Violet Ch. Stretton 6a 295
This compares with the entry for her husband’s marriage of:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1908 (>99%)
SALWEY Roger Ch. Stretton 6a 1295
Note the loss of the ‘1’ in the page number in her record.
Her record has indeed been correctly transcribed from the index page, as had her husband’s. So I’ve left a PostEm on the FreeBMD site against both.
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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1908 (>99%)
CHAMPION Alice Violet Ch. Stretton 6a 295
This compares with the entry for her husband’s marriage of:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1908 (>99%)
SALWEY Roger Ch. Stretton 6a 1295
Note the loss of the ‘1’ in the page number in her record.
Her record has indeed been correctly transcribed from the index page, as had her husband’s. So I’ve left a PostEm on the FreeBMD site against both.
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