Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
NameSir Roger de Venables 
[64, Vol III, Venables pedigree p. 198]
[64, Vol III, Venables pedigree p. 198]Deathca 1261
GeneralOf Kinderton, Cheshire.
FatherHugh de Venables
MotherAgnes de Oxton
Notes for Sir Roger de Venables
It is most odd: Ormerod gives an apparently well documented ancestry for Roger, Vol III, pp. 187-8, yet I can find nothing anywhere else to corroborate it. So I am leaving it out for the moment until confidence grows. The line starts with a Domesday entry, which can be confirmed in Keats-Rohan’s Domesday people:
Gilbert de Venables (aka Venator)
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N. N.
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Gilbert de Venables = Margery filia Walthew aka Waltheof
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Sir William de Venables, d. c. 1228
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Hugh de Venables = (2) Agnes de Oxton
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Roger de Venables, d. c. 1261 = Alice de Penington
The 1580 visitation pedigree hardly corresponds with Ormerod’s pedigree at all. Possibly Ormerod was aware of the visitation pedigree and if so, would have had good grounds to consciously reject it; I am using this as an argument to endorse Ormerods analysis.
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Gilbert de Venables (aka Venator)
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N. N.
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Gilbert de Venables = Margery filia Walthew aka Waltheof
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Sir William de Venables, d. c. 1228
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Hugh de Venables = (2) Agnes de Oxton
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Roger de Venables, d. c. 1261 = Alice de Penington
The 1580 visitation pedigree hardly corresponds with Ormerod’s pedigree at all. Possibly Ormerod was aware of the visitation pedigree and if so, would have had good grounds to consciously reject it; I am using this as an argument to endorse Ormerods analysis.
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