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NameEdmund de Kemesek [100, mjcar@****ternet.com, “Kemesk of Fordham”, 26 Aug 2005]
Death1253
General3rd s. Heir to 2nd s. Henry who was heir to 1st s. Tibbald.
FatherHenry de Kemesek (ca1186-ca1235)
Notes for Edmund de Kemesek
Michael Andrews-Reading found this gem:

From: mj...@b....com
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Subject: De Kemesek of Fordham: earlier ancestry
Date: 15 Nov 2006 04:04:18 -0800

The following PROCAT document appears to give an insight into an
earlier ancestry of the de Kemesek family of Fordham, Cambs:

E 326/3630 (undated): "Confirmation by Wimar de Torington of the
release which Edmund de Kemesek made to John de Eston of all customs
which he was wont to pay for the land which he holds of the marriage of
Matilda, Wimar's daughter, in Frodham (sic; ie Fordham), for 6
shillings 9 pence paid in by the said John yearly to the said Edmund;
witnesses: Walter de Isleham, Robert de Fordham and others".

We know that the wife of Edmund de Kemesek (died circa 1253) was named
Maud, and it seems we can therefore identify her as the daughter of
Wimar de Thornton, whose family is further detailed in VCH Cambs, sub
Wicken.

Wimar de Thornton held the manor of Wicken, dying between 1240 and 1243
(he left a son and heir, Matthew, whose daughter and heir Mary married
into the Bassingbourne family).  Wimar was himself the kinsman and heir
of Beatrice (d c1233), widow of Hugh Malebisse and daughter and heir of
Wimar (d c1203), son of Warner the Steward (ff 1160s); according to VCH
Cambs, Wimar de Thornton was the male-line great grandson of Roger,
younger brother of Warner the Steward.

Both Warner and Roger were the sons of Wimar, steward of Count Alan of
Brittany in respect of the Honour of Richmond, who held at Fordham of
Count Alan in 1086 and who received Wicken as a grant from Alan; he was
living as late as circa 1125.

The Kemeseks were in turn ancestral to the Coggeshall family.

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