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GeneralDau of Sir Thos Lucy of Charlcote, but which one?
FatherThomas Lucy (-1425)
Notes for Alice (or Lucy) Lucy
This is an enquiry I made about Alice's father.  No response as yet...  I have set her to be the dau. of Thos Lucy and Alice Hugford; this could be wrong, of course.

Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:46:08 +0100
From: Tim Powys-Lybbe <tim@powys.org>
Subject: Who was Sir Thomas Lucy of Charlcote?
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval

In Ormerod's History of Cheshire, Vol III p. 230, there is this
pedigree of some Hattons of Hatton near Daresbury, Cheshire:

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                                                   Sir Thomas Lucy
                                                    of Charlcote
                                                        |
     Piers Hatton             William de Holdenby = Alice Lucy
          |______________            _____________|
                         |          |
                  Henry Hatton = Elizabeth Holdenby, d & h
                     d. 1511   |
                               |
                         John Hatton
                               |
                        William Hatton
                            d. 1546
                               |
                               V

The problem I cannot solve is which is this Sir Thomas Lucy of
Charlcote. I notice that Leo van de Pas' Genealogica site has the same
information, from Paget's Ancestry of Prince Charles, and does not
identify Sir Thos Lucy either.

From Alice Fairfax-Lucy's Charlcote and the Lucys, pp. 317-8, there are
these Lucys:

                     Thomas = Alice Hugford
                    d. 1415 |
                         ___|
                        |
                    William = Alianore Grey
                    d. 1466 |
                         ___|
                        |
                    William = (1) Margaret Brecknock
                    d. 1492 | (2) Alice Hanbury
                         ___|
                        |
                     Edmund = (2) Jean Ludlow
                    d. 1495 |
                         ___|
                        |
                     Thomas = Elizabeth Catesby
                    d. 1525

The last of these is too late to be Alice's father, and the first looks
a little early but is plausible.  However it is possible that Ormerod
got the wrong Lucy and it was in fact a William of Charlcote.

I can't find anything relevant in A2A.
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