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NameJohn de Grey Lord Grey of Rotherfield 
[60, Marmion art, Vol VIII, p. 518-522], [77, p. 65], [60, Grey of Rotherfield, Vol VI, p. 144 seq], [142, Line 50-6, p. 71], [60, Bedale article, Vol V, p. 398 & table on p. 397]
[60, Marmion art, Vol VIII, p. 518-522], [77, p. 65], [60, Grey of Rotherfield, Vol VI, p. 144 seq], [142, Line 50-6, p. 71], [60, Bedale article, Vol V, p. 398 & table on p. 397]Death1 Sep 1359, Rotherfield
General1st baron, of Rotherfield. At Crecy: 1346. KG 14, Founder.
FatherSir John de Grey (-1311)
MotherMargaret de Odingsells (->1319)
Notes for John de Grey Lord Grey of Rotherfield
m.(1) Katherine FitzAlan, (2) Alice Marmion.
There was an elder son John whose descent from Thomas de Valoignes is shown in Wrottesley’s “Pedigrees from the Plea Rolls”, p. 9.
There was an elder son John whose descent from Thomas de Valoignes is shown in Wrottesley’s “Pedigrees from the Plea Rolls”, p. 9.
Armorial Blazon notes for John de Grey Lord Grey of Rotherfield
Barry of six, Argent and Azure, on a bend Gules three martlets Or.
Blazon source notes for John de Grey Lord Grey of Rotherfield
The Dean of St George, Windsor’s Tables; photographs on the CDROM Garter Armorials, published by the heraldry Society 2015.
and
The Dictionary nof British Arms, Medieval Ordinary, Volume Two, p. 15.
His stall plate does NOT survive.
and
The Dictionary nof British Arms, Medieval Ordinary, Volume Two, p. 15.
His stall plate does NOT survive.
DNB Main notes for John de Grey Lord Grey of Rotherfield
Grey, John de, second Baron Grey of Rotherfield 1300-1359
Name: Grey, John de
Title: second Baron Grey of Rotherfield
Dates: 1300-1359
Active Date: 1340
Gender: Male
Field of Interest: Military
Occupation: Soldier
Spouse: Katherine, daughter of Bryan Fitz-Alan, Avice, daughter and coheiress of John de Marmion, second baron de Marmion
Sources: Rymer's Federa, ed. 1830; Beltz's Memorials of the Order of...
Contributor: C. L. K. [Charles Lethbridge Kingsford]
Article
Grey, John de, second Baron Grey of Rotherfield 1300-1359, soldier, was a descendant of Robert de Grey, brother of Richard de Grey (fl. 1250) [q.v.], and John de Grey (d. 1266) [q.v.]. His father, John de Grey (1271-1312), was summoned to parliament as first Baron Grey of Rotherfield 26 Jan. 1297, and was employed during the war in Scotland in 1299 and 1306 (Cal. Doc. Scot. ii. 1819). He died in 1312, having married Margaret, daughter of William de Odingsells of Maxstoke, Warwickshire. His son John made proof of his age and received livery of his lands in the fifteenth year of Edward II. In 1327 he was employed in the Scottish war. In January 1332, having quarrelled with William le Zouche in the royal presence, he was imprisoned and his lands seized by the crown, but shortly after made his submission, and was restored to favour (Annales Paulini, in Chronicles of Edward I and II, Rolls Ser., i. 335). Grey was constantly employed in the wars of Edward III's reign; in 1336 he was in Scotland; in 1342 he took part in the expedition to Flanders, and was there again five years later; he was in France in 1343, 1345-6, 1348, and 1356. In 1347 he received a license to crenellate Rotherfield and Sculcotes. He was one of the justices appointed to try William Thorpe [q.v.], the chief justice, for taking bribes in 1350, when he is styled ‘steward (or seneschal) of our household’ (Federa, iii. 208), an office which he still held four years later. In 1353 he was commissioner of array for the counties of Oxford and Buckingham, and in 1356 was one of the witnesses to the charters by which Edward Baliol granted all his rights in Scotland to Edward III (ib. iii. 317-22, dated Roxburgh, 20 Jan. 1356). Grey, who was summoned to parliament from 1326 to 1356, was one of the original knights of the Garter instituted at its foundation on 23 April 1344, when he occupied the eighth stall on the sovereign's side. He died on 1 Sept. 1359, having married, first, Katherine, daughter of Bryan Fitz-Alan of Bedale, Yorkshire, by whom he had a son John, third baron (d. 1375); and, secondly, to Avice, daughter and coheiress of John de Marmion, second baron de Marmion, by whom he had two sons, John and Robert, who took their mother's name.
Sources
Rymer's Federa, ed. 1830; Beltz's Memorials of the Order of the Garter, pp. 57-9; Dugdale's Baronage, i. 723; Burke's Dormant and Extinct Peerages, p. 247.
Contributor: C. L. K.
published 1890
Name: Grey, John de
Title: second Baron Grey of Rotherfield
Dates: 1300-1359
Active Date: 1340
Gender: Male
Field of Interest: Military
Occupation: Soldier
Spouse: Katherine, daughter of Bryan Fitz-Alan, Avice, daughter and coheiress of John de Marmion, second baron de Marmion
Sources: Rymer's Federa, ed. 1830; Beltz's Memorials of the Order of...
Contributor: C. L. K. [Charles Lethbridge Kingsford]
Article
Grey, John de, second Baron Grey of Rotherfield 1300-1359, soldier, was a descendant of Robert de Grey, brother of Richard de Grey (fl. 1250) [q.v.], and John de Grey (d. 1266) [q.v.]. His father, John de Grey (1271-1312), was summoned to parliament as first Baron Grey of Rotherfield 26 Jan. 1297, and was employed during the war in Scotland in 1299 and 1306 (Cal. Doc. Scot. ii. 1819). He died in 1312, having married Margaret, daughter of William de Odingsells of Maxstoke, Warwickshire. His son John made proof of his age and received livery of his lands in the fifteenth year of Edward II. In 1327 he was employed in the Scottish war. In January 1332, having quarrelled with William le Zouche in the royal presence, he was imprisoned and his lands seized by the crown, but shortly after made his submission, and was restored to favour (Annales Paulini, in Chronicles of Edward I and II, Rolls Ser., i. 335). Grey was constantly employed in the wars of Edward III's reign; in 1336 he was in Scotland; in 1342 he took part in the expedition to Flanders, and was there again five years later; he was in France in 1343, 1345-6, 1348, and 1356. In 1347 he received a license to crenellate Rotherfield and Sculcotes. He was one of the justices appointed to try William Thorpe [q.v.], the chief justice, for taking bribes in 1350, when he is styled ‘steward (or seneschal) of our household’ (Federa, iii. 208), an office which he still held four years later. In 1353 he was commissioner of array for the counties of Oxford and Buckingham, and in 1356 was one of the witnesses to the charters by which Edward Baliol granted all his rights in Scotland to Edward III (ib. iii. 317-22, dated Roxburgh, 20 Jan. 1356). Grey, who was summoned to parliament from 1326 to 1356, was one of the original knights of the Garter instituted at its foundation on 23 April 1344, when he occupied the eighth stall on the sovereign's side. He died on 1 Sept. 1359, having married, first, Katherine, daughter of Bryan Fitz-Alan of Bedale, Yorkshire, by whom he had a son John, third baron (d. 1375); and, secondly, to Avice, daughter and coheiress of John de Marmion, second baron de Marmion, by whom he had two sons, John and Robert, who took their mother's name.
Sources
Rymer's Federa, ed. 1830; Beltz's Memorials of the Order of the Garter, pp. 57-9; Dugdale's Baronage, i. 723; Burke's Dormant and Extinct Peerages, p. 247.
Contributor: C. L. K.
published 1890