Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
NameAlice Paynel 
[60, Lincoln art, Vol VII, p. 674, note (a)], [60, Paynel article, Vol X, p. 319], [119, Alicia Paganel, p. 1055], [121, Houghton Pagnell barony, p. 55]
[60, Lincoln art, Vol VII, p. 674, note (a)], [60, Paynel article, Vol X, p. 319], [119, Alicia Paganel, p. 1055], [121, Houghton Pagnell barony, p. 55]Death1180
GeneralShe is said to have been Wm Paynel's principal heir - but had brothers.
FatherWilliam Paynel (-ca1146)
MotherAvice le Meschin Lady of Harewood (-ca1179)
Spouses
Marriageca 1153 [120, Vol VI, Paynel fee, Swinstead charter, p. 170]
ChildrenAlice de (-1192)
Notes for Alice Paynel
m. (1) Richard de Courcy (d.c. 1153), (2) Robert de Gand.
(There is a (to me) confusing mention of her and her husband in K-R's DD, p. 427.)
(There is a (to me) confusing mention of her and her husband in K-R's DD, p. 427.)
Notes for Robert de & Alice (Family)
C T Clay in his note to this charter in EYC VI, 170, says the charter proves that Robert’s marriage must have occurred before the death of Eustace, son of King Stephen which occurred in Aug 1153. Further, Alice’s first husband did not die until c. 1153. So it sounds as if this marriage was pretty close to 1153.