John Ravilous reckoned, 14 May 2004 on s.g.m, that his wife might be Juliana de Gournay:

     "Robert de Chaucombe (d. aft 13 Sept 1246) was the little-known lord of Chaucombe, Northants. and Rotherby, co. Leics., best known as the ancestor through his daughters of the Lords Basset (of  Sapcote), Lords Botetourt, Sutton of Dudley, the Lords Segrave [and thereby of the Howard Dukes of Norfolk] and others too numerous to contemplate]. HThe daughters of Robert and Juliana (____) de Chaucombe were Amabil (wife of Gilbert de Segrave) - named for her paternal grandmother - and Millicent (wife of Ralph Basset of Sapcote), whose namesake is otherwise not identifiable in CP.  Juliana (or Julian) is not otherwise identified, but a solution to her identification would obviously affect the ancestry of a great
many individuals
     The juxtaposition of the names Juliana and Millicent as mother
and daughter does, however, suggest a solution.  The family that
provides known relationships of individuals with these names is that
of Hugh de Gournay of Mapledurham, co. Oxon. (d. 25 Sep 1214, son of
Hugh de Gournay by Melisende, or Millicent, de Coucy) and his wife
Juliana (identified presently as Juliana de Dammartin, daughter of
Aubri II de Dammartin and Maud de Clermont).   A brief chart of the
relationships given by this identification would appear as follows
(the conjectured connection appearing as a broken line:  _  _  _ ):


   Hugh de   =   Melisende     Aubri de  =  Maud de
  Gournay    I   de Coucy     Dammartin  I  Clermont
  d.ca.1180  I__________                 I
                       I                 I
               Hugh de Gournay  =  Juliana de    Hugh de  = Amabilis
               d. 25 Sep 1214   I  Dammartin    Chaucombe I___
    ____________________________I_______ _ _ _ _ _ _         I
    I           I          I           I           I         I
Millicent    Gerard     Hugh        Anselm    Juliana  =  Robert de
= 2) William   (dvp)    d. 1238                        I  Chaucombe
  de Cantelou              I                            I  d.ca. 1246
  d. Feb 1250/1            I_____                       I
  __I___________________        I             __________I_____
  I          I         I        I            I               I
Juliana   William   [others]  Juliana      Amabil        Millicent
= Robert     I                = William   = 1) Gilbert     = Ralph
de Tregoz    I                Bardolf     I  de Segrave    Basset
  I          I                  I         I  = 2) Roger de   I
  I          I                  I         I  I  Somery       I
  V          V                  V         I  I               V
                                          V  V


     While the above conjecture is short on documentation, the
relationship indicated is reasonable and has no apparent
circumstantial defects:

     1. Chronologically, Juliana (wife of Robert de Chaucombe)
        makes a good 'fit' as a daughter of Hugh de Gournay and
        Juliana de Dammartin.  Her husband is contemporaneous
        with her likely siblings Millicent (de Gournay) de
        Cantelou and Hugh de Gournay, and the grandchildren of
        Juliana are reasonably contemporary with the grandchildren
        of Millicent and Hugh [see below].

     2. Hugh de Gournay and Robert de Chaucombe are of reasonably
        equivalent baronial rank.  Hugh served as Sheriff of
        Bedfordshire and Buckinghamshire (1214 at least), and
        Hugh de Chaucombe, father of Robert, served as
        sheriff of Staffordshire, Warwick and Leicestershire,
        1196-98, and again as sheriff of Warwickshire and
        Leicestershire, Oct 1204 - July 1207.  A union of the son
        of Hugh de Chaucombe and a daughter of Hugh de Gournay
        would have been unremarkable.

     3. There are no instances of consanguineous unions noted
        in the identified progeny of Juliana (if properly
        identified herein) and of her conjectured siblings, Hugh
        and Millicent de Gournay.

     I would be most interested if anyone of the group has 'related'
information or documentation, esp. as to any holdings of the
individuals involved that would confirm (or disprove) the
relationships herein conjectured.  If confirmed, this identification
would provide further ancestry for the descendants of Robert de
Chaucombe from French and Norman nobility, as well as additional
Capetian and Carolingian ancestry.
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Ayear later, on 14th May 2005, John Ravilous came up with:

    "In prior threads, it was suggested that Juliana, wife of Robert de Chaucombe (and ancestress of the Lords Segrave and many more besides) was possibly of the Dammartin family, or of the de Welles [1].  

     "Rosie noted that Strubby, co. Lincs. was identified as the maritagium
of Juliana [2].  I have noted that this information, and the final concord
of 10 April 1239, is to be found on the A2A website [3].  Interestingly,
the introduction prior to this text provides the following information:

     '  The holding was granted by William de Cornhill to Robert de
      Chaucombe in free marriage with William's daughter Juliana. It was
      then settled on her daughter Milicent Basset, but passed to the
      Segraves, and Juliana de Chaucombe quitclaimed her rights to
      Nicholas de Segrave. By 1325 it had been alienated, as a note
      in the Segrave Cartulary confirms. [BL Harl. MS4748,f.22, See
      BCM/D/6 Administrative history] ' [4]

     "A cursory review of A2A and my notes provides no further illumination
re: this William de Cornhill, or the prior tenure of Strubby.  Should anyone have any further information or documentation, that should lead us to further insights concerning this portion of the de Segrave/de Chaucombe ancestry."
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