Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
NameWilliam le Meschin Lord of Copeland 
[60, Aumale article, Vol XIV, p. 53], [60, Zouche: vol XII/2, p.930 on], [60, Mortimer art, Vol IX, p.266 seq], [54, His co-article to bro. Ranuulf Le Meschin], [60, Lisle pedigree, Vol VIII, bet. p. 48 & 49], [120, Vol V, The Honour of Skipton, frontispiece pedigree], [121, Egremont, Cumberland barony (2nd class), p. 115], [119, Willelm Meschin, pp. 1039-1040], [119, Son-in-law, Philip de Belmeis, p. 317], [144, Tong chapter, p. 205]
[60, Aumale article, Vol XIV, p. 53], [60, Zouche: vol XII/2, p.930 on], [60, Mortimer art, Vol IX, p.266 seq], [54, His co-article to bro. Ranuulf Le Meschin], [60, Lisle pedigree, Vol VIII, bet. p. 48 & 49], [120, Vol V, The Honour of Skipton, frontispiece pedigree], [121, Egremont, Cumberland barony (2nd class), p. 115], [119, Willelm Meschin, pp. 1039-1040], [119, Son-in-law, Philip de Belmeis, p. 317], [144, Tong chapter, p. 205]Deathca 1135
GeneralOf Skipton-in-Craven.
FatherRanulf Vicomte de Bayeux
MotherMargaret
Spouses
1Cecily de Rumilly Lady of Skipton [60, Mortimer art, Vol IX, p.266 seq], [60, Aumale art, Vol XIV, p. 53], [60, Lisle pedigree, Vol VIII, bet. p. 48 & 49], [120, Vol V, The Honour of Skipton, frontispiece pedigree], [119, Cecilia de Rumelio, pp. 674-5], [121, Skipton, Yorks barony (2nd class), p. 142]
[60, Mortimer art, Vol IX, p.266 seq], [60, Aumale art, Vol XIV, p. 53], [60, Lisle pedigree, Vol VIII, bet. p. 48 & 49], [120, Vol V, The Honour of Skipton, frontispiece pedigree], [119, Cecilia de Rumelio, pp. 674-5], [121, Skipton, Yorks barony (2nd class), p. 142]FatherRobert de Rumilly Lord of Harewood (-ca1096)
MotherMuriel
Notes for William le Meschin Lord of Copeland
Feudal baron (2nd class) of Egremont, Cumberland.
Dave"UTZ" on soc.gen.med, 1 Oct 2001, says he was born c. 1098.
Dave"UTZ" on soc.gen.med, 1 Oct 2001, says he was born c. 1098.
Arms Generally notes for William le Meschin Lord of Copeland
Possibly (borne by his brother Ranulf): Gules a lion rampant guardant argent. (Burke's Armory of 1842)
In Fox-Davies’ “Armorial Families” he gives both these arms, though omitting the ‘guardant’ and the Rumilly arms, quarters 19 and 20 of White of Tuxford, Notts, vol II, p. 2075.
The obvious problem with this is that “Gules a lion argent’ was born by his nephew, the son of his elder brother. So I think a label needs to be added to these arms, let’s give him four points azure.
In Fox-Davies’ “Armorial Families” he gives both these arms, though omitting the ‘guardant’ and the Rumilly arms, quarters 19 and 20 of White of Tuxford, Notts, vol II, p. 2075.
The obvious problem with this is that “Gules a lion argent’ was born by his nephew, the son of his elder brother. So I think a label needs to be added to these arms, let’s give him four points azure.
Armorial Blazon notes for William le Meschin Lord of Copeland
Gules a lion rampant argent with a label of four points azure.
Blazon source notes for William le Meschin Lord of Copeland
Fox-Davies’ “Armorial Families”, quarters 19 of White of Tuxford, Notts, vol II, p. 2075.
DNB Main notes for William le Meschin Lord of Copeland
Co-subject: Meschin, William
Dates: d. 1138
Active Date: 1118
Gender: Male
Field of Interest: Land Ownership
Occupation: Norman baron
Article
He had also a younger brother, William Meschin, who appears in the ‘Lindsey Survey’ by that name, and who had received a fief there out of forfeited estates (Waters, p. 12). He had also been enfeoffed in Cumberland by Randulf, and acquired the honour of Skipton in Yorkshire by his marriage with Cecilia, daughter of Robert de Reumilly (Stapleton, p. 34). He had witnessed, with his brother Randulf, a charter of Earl Richard (d. 1120) to St. Werburgh of Chester, and he also witnessed Randulf's own charter to that house (Monasticon, ii. 387). He occurs in the pipe roll of 1130, but was probably dead in or before 1138 (Stapleton). Stapleton asserts that he was made Earl of Cambridge by Stephen (ib.), but this is an error (Round, Feudal England, p. 186).
Dates: d. 1138
Active Date: 1118
Gender: Male
Field of Interest: Land Ownership
Occupation: Norman baron
Article
He had also a younger brother, William Meschin, who appears in the ‘Lindsey Survey’ by that name, and who had received a fief there out of forfeited estates (Waters, p. 12). He had also been enfeoffed in Cumberland by Randulf, and acquired the honour of Skipton in Yorkshire by his marriage with Cecilia, daughter of Robert de Reumilly (Stapleton, p. 34). He had witnessed, with his brother Randulf, a charter of Earl Richard (d. 1120) to St. Werburgh of Chester, and he also witnessed Randulf's own charter to that house (Monasticon, ii. 387). He occurs in the pipe roll of 1130, but was probably dead in or before 1138 (Stapleton). Stapleton asserts that he was made Earl of Cambridge by Stephen (ib.), but this is an error (Round, Feudal England, p. 186).