Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
NameSir William de Montefex 
[73, Drummond of Perth article, Vol 7, p. 35], [259, Chap 7 on Arbroath Declaration, Mowat paragraph, p. 147], [54, Annabella Drummond's article], [60, Carrick art, Vol III, p. 58]
[73, Drummond of Perth article, Vol 7, p. 35], [259, Chap 7 on Arbroath Declaration, Mowat paragraph, p. 147], [54, Annabella Drummond's article], [60, Carrick art, Vol III, p. 58]GeneralOf Auchterarder and Cargill.
Notes for Sir William de Montefex
He is thought by Bruce A McAndrew to have been descended from one or other of brothers Roger Mount and William de Monte Alto. See these two Mowat paragraphs on page 147 of Chapter 7 on the Declaration of Arbroath:
“As well as families rising up the social ladder the Declaration also provides the names of a small number of families whose future lay in local rather than national affairs. Two Mwats, Roger Mouant and W. de Monte alto [sic], are named on the declaration, but their seals have been lost. Early members of the family, like so many others, appeared in Scotland during the reign of David I, and in the following century are generally found in the north-east, holding the lordship of Fearn (ANS) and associated with the powerful Comyn family. Robert de Monte Alto held tthe position of joint Justiciar of Scotia from 1241 to 1244. Early seals display A lion rampant (SAS2028, SAS2029), which would appear to link them with the English Mowats, where Roger de Mowat (dsp 1296) bore a silver lion on blue (HE124, D228, G61), and his kinsmen, Adam de Mohaut (d. before May 1290), bore Argent, three bars gemelles sable, a lion rampant gules (HE302, A226, Q44). But no definite information is available regarding the colours borne by the Scottish Mowats till the late 16th century, when Argent, a lion fampant sable is given for Mowat of Baquhillie (HR662) among the local gentry.
“The origin of the Mowat name lies in Monte alto or Mont haut; similarly derived is Monte fixo, which with time became Montfichet, and finally Nuschet. William de Montefixo is named on the Declaration, but his seal, too, had been lost. However, the dimilarity in the arms on the seal of an earlier Sir William, bearing Ermine, three chevronnels (SHSS52609) with the Or, three chevronnel gules, a label azure (MP,II,24; B80) of Sir Richard Montfichet of Stanstead Montfichet (ESS) clearly demonstrates their common origin. The family failed in the male line in the middle 14th century, whereupon Mary de Montefixo carried her Perthshire and Stirlingshire estates to he husband Sir John Drummon of Concraig.”
(When all other argument fils, call in Heraldry!)
But is justifies further investigation to see if Mary’s forbears were by any chance descended from the Mowats named on the Declaration. So far I have found nothing more.
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“As well as families rising up the social ladder the Declaration also provides the names of a small number of families whose future lay in local rather than national affairs. Two Mwats, Roger Mouant and W. de Monte alto [sic], are named on the declaration, but their seals have been lost. Early members of the family, like so many others, appeared in Scotland during the reign of David I, and in the following century are generally found in the north-east, holding the lordship of Fearn (ANS) and associated with the powerful Comyn family. Robert de Monte Alto held tthe position of joint Justiciar of Scotia from 1241 to 1244. Early seals display A lion rampant (SAS2028, SAS2029), which would appear to link them with the English Mowats, where Roger de Mowat (dsp 1296) bore a silver lion on blue (HE124, D228, G61), and his kinsmen, Adam de Mohaut (d. before May 1290), bore Argent, three bars gemelles sable, a lion rampant gules (HE302, A226, Q44). But no definite information is available regarding the colours borne by the Scottish Mowats till the late 16th century, when Argent, a lion fampant sable is given for Mowat of Baquhillie (HR662) among the local gentry.
“The origin of the Mowat name lies in Monte alto or Mont haut; similarly derived is Monte fixo, which with time became Montfichet, and finally Nuschet. William de Montefixo is named on the Declaration, but his seal, too, had been lost. However, the dimilarity in the arms on the seal of an earlier Sir William, bearing Ermine, three chevronnels (SHSS52609) with the Or, three chevronnel gules, a label azure (MP,II,24; B80) of Sir Richard Montfichet of Stanstead Montfichet (ESS) clearly demonstrates their common origin. The family failed in the male line in the middle 14th century, whereupon Mary de Montefixo carried her Perthshire and Stirlingshire estates to he husband Sir John Drummon of Concraig.”
(When all other argument fils, call in Heraldry!)
But is justifies further investigation to see if Mary’s forbears were by any chance descended from the Mowats named on the Declaration. So far I have found nothing more.
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