Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
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NameSir Guy Spiney 
[97, Throckmorton of Weston Underwood, table, Vol IV, p. 399], [56, Warks of 1619, Pub Harleian 1877, Throckmorton p. 87], [112, Carew pedigree]
[97, Throckmorton of Weston Underwood, table, Vol IV, p. 399], [56, Warks of 1619, Pub Harleian 1877, Throckmorton p. 87], [112, Carew pedigree]GeneralOf Coughton, Warks.
Notes for Sir Guy Spiney
Nicolas in Test Vet refers to him as "Sir Guy de Spineto, Lord of Coughton, co Warwick".
He was descended from the Coctons of Coughton and Wrottesley and thus from Ralph, the brother of Walter, the abbot of Evesham in Domesday. See Dugdales’ Warks, p. 558, and Geo Wrottesley’s “History of the Family of Wrottesley”. Probably it would be as well to check in the VCH for Warks.
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Dugdale is clear that his ancestry for Guy may have left out the odd generation but it goes as follows:
Guy had two daughters and co-heirs, Alice who m. William Tracy of Todington, Glos and Alianor who m. John the son of Thomas Throkmorton. (The Glos 1623 visitation has a pedigree of Tracy of Todington but nothing like this William and Alice. But these Tracys are in Burke’s Extinct Baronetcies of 1844, p. 530)
Guy was alive in 11 R 2 (1388) and in 4 H 4 (1403); his father was William who succeeded his father in 10 E 2 (1317).
William’s father was another William, who d. in 10 E 2 (1317).
William’s father was another William who had married a Joan Cocton, co-heir to Simon Cocton. This William was living in 17 E 1 (1289).
Simon Cocton had two daughters, Cecilie who m. John de la Mare and Joan. Simon was living in 5 H 3 (1221).
Simon’s father was another Simon de Cocton.
The second Simon was the son of a Ralph de Cocton.
The last Simon and his father Ralph appear in Geo Wottesley’s “Family of Wrottesley”, p. 398 and their ancestry is discussed and set out also in pp. 3 to 24.
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VCH Warks, vol II, covers the manor of Coughton but does not resolve the above, in fact it makes it less clear.
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He was descended from the Coctons of Coughton and Wrottesley and thus from Ralph, the brother of Walter, the abbot of Evesham in Domesday. See Dugdales’ Warks, p. 558, and Geo Wrottesley’s “History of the Family of Wrottesley”. Probably it would be as well to check in the VCH for Warks.
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Dugdale is clear that his ancestry for Guy may have left out the odd generation but it goes as follows:
Guy had two daughters and co-heirs, Alice who m. William Tracy of Todington, Glos and Alianor who m. John the son of Thomas Throkmorton. (The Glos 1623 visitation has a pedigree of Tracy of Todington but nothing like this William and Alice. But these Tracys are in Burke’s Extinct Baronetcies of 1844, p. 530)
Guy was alive in 11 R 2 (1388) and in 4 H 4 (1403); his father was William who succeeded his father in 10 E 2 (1317).
William’s father was another William, who d. in 10 E 2 (1317).
William’s father was another William who had married a Joan Cocton, co-heir to Simon Cocton. This William was living in 17 E 1 (1289).
Simon Cocton had two daughters, Cecilie who m. John de la Mare and Joan. Simon was living in 5 H 3 (1221).
Simon’s father was another Simon de Cocton.
The second Simon was the son of a Ralph de Cocton.
The last Simon and his father Ralph appear in Geo Wottesley’s “Family of Wrottesley”, p. 398 and their ancestry is discussed and set out also in pp. 3 to 24.
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VCH Warks, vol II, covers the manor of Coughton but does not resolve the above, in fact it makes it less clear.
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