Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
NameAlianor Mowbray 
[146], [60, Welles article, Vol XII/2, pp. 442-3], [100, "... Margaret Mowbray", Doug Richardson, 1 Feb 2002]
[146], [60, Welles article, Vol XII/2, pp. 442-3], [100, "... Margaret Mowbray", Doug Richardson, 1 Feb 2002]Birthbef 1361
Death1417
GeneralEldest dau.
FatherSir John (III) Mowbray Lord Mowbray (1340-ca1368)
MotherElizabeth Segrave Baroness Segrave (1338-<1368)
Spouses
1John de Welles Lord Welles [170, pp 109-113], [146], [76, p.371], [60, Welles article, Vol XII/2, pp. 441-3]
[170, pp 109-113], [146], [76, p.371], [60, Welles article, Vol XII/2, pp. 441-3]FatherJohn de Welle Lord Welles (1334-1361)
MotherMaud Ros? (-1388)
Marriagebef May 1386 [76, p.371]
ChildrenEudo de (-<1421)
Notes for Alianor Mowbray
Chris Phillips had found a settlement charter for Alianor Mowbray's and John Welle's marriage (Misc. Gen et Her., 5th series, vol 9, p. 48). Doug Richardson has deduced from this and other evidence that the settlement had to have been signed between 1361, when old lord Welles died (he was "late lord" in the settlement) and 1368 when Alienor's father John Morbray died. Marriages did not happen until they in fact were at least 7 so Alianor had to have been born in 1361 or before.
This then allows Lucy Mowbray to be her sister instead of her aunt.
See the soc.gen.med archives under "Another look at Margaret (Mowbray) Lucy" of Jan / Feb 2002.
This then allows Lucy Mowbray to be her sister instead of her aunt.
See the soc.gen.med archives under "Another look at Margaret (Mowbray) Lucy" of Jan / Feb 2002.