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NameThomas Manners Earl of Rutland 
[60, Ros art, Vol XI, p. 90 seq], [54, His own article], [60, Despenser art, Vol IV, p. 259 seq], [60, Abergavenny art, Vol I, p.24 seq], [78, The will of Thomas earl of Rutland, pp. 719-721], [60, Rutland article, Vol XI, pp. 253-5], [60, Shrewsbury article, Vol XI, p. 713], [123, Vol II, p. 31], [56, Cheshire of 1580, pub Harleian 1882, Savage, p. 204], [64, Savage of Clifton, Vol I, pp. 715-6], [77, p. 82]
[60, Ros art, Vol XI, p. 90 seq], [54, His own article], [60, Despenser art, Vol IV, p. 259 seq], [60, Abergavenny art, Vol I, p.24 seq], [78, The will of Thomas earl of Rutland, pp. 719-721], [60, Rutland article, Vol XI, pp. 253-5], [60, Shrewsbury article, Vol XI, p. 713], [123, Vol II, p. 31], [56, Cheshire of 1580, pub Harleian 1882, Savage, p. 204], [64, Savage of Clifton, Vol I, pp. 715-6], [77, p. 82]Birthbef 1492
Death20 Sep 1543
General12th Ld Ros, 1st earl: 1525. KG 283: 1525; N 13.
FatherGeorge Manners Lord Ros (ca1470-1513)
MotherAnne St Leger (ca1476-1526)
Spouses
Marriageca 21 Feb 1513 [60, Rutland article, Vol XI, p. 254]
Marriagebef 1523 [60, Rutland article, Vol XI, p. 254]
Notes for Thomas Manners Earl of Rutland
He was a baron in the king’s retinue at the Field of the Cloth of Gold in 1520.
His second son (and Eleanor’s?), Sir John, m. Dorothy co-heir to Sir Geo Vernon. Ref CP, Rutland article, vol XI, p. 255, note (f). This second son carried the earldom to his grandson John who succeeded to it in 1641.
His second son (and Eleanor’s?), Sir John, m. Dorothy co-heir to Sir Geo Vernon. Ref CP, Rutland article, vol XI, p. 255, note (f). This second son carried the earldom to his grandson John who succeeded to it in 1641.
Will notes for Thomas Manners Earl of Rutland
In his will, dated 16th August 1542, he lists:
Margaret [sic, mysteriously] countess of Holland his wife,
Oliver Manners younger son,
His son Henry lord Roos,
Lady Margaret Roos his son's betrothed,
Jouhn Manners a younger son,
Roger Manners a younger son,
Thomas Manners a younger son,
His daughter Elizabeth
His daughter Frances,
His daughter Katherine,
Eleanor [sic, OK this time] Countess of Rutland his wife,
Sir Richard Manners his brother.
Margaret [sic, mysteriously] countess of Holland his wife,
Oliver Manners younger son,
His son Henry lord Roos,
Lady Margaret Roos his son's betrothed,
Jouhn Manners a younger son,
Roger Manners a younger son,
Thomas Manners a younger son,
His daughter Elizabeth
His daughter Frances,
His daughter Katherine,
Eleanor [sic, OK this time] Countess of Rutland his wife,
Sir Richard Manners his brother.
DNB Main notes for Thomas Manners Earl of Rutland
Manners, Thomas, first Earl of Rutland d. 1543
Name: Manners, Thomas
Title: first Earl of Rutland
Dates: d. 1543
Active Date: 1523
Gender: Male
Spouse: Elizabeth, daughter of Sir Robert Lovel, Eleanor, daughter of Sir William Paston
Likenesses: 1...
Sources: Letters and Papers, Henry VIII, ed. Brewer and Gairdner, passim...
Contributor: W. A. J. A. [William Arthur Jobson Archbold]
Article
Manners, Thomas, first Earl of Rutland d. 1543, eldest son of Sir George Manners, by Anne, daughter of Sir Thomas St. Leger. His father became twelfth baron Ros of Hamlake in 1487 by the death of his mother, Eleanor, eldest sister and coheiress of Edmund, eleventh lord Ros of Hamlake, Triesbut, and Belvoir; he was a distinguished soldier, and was knighted by the Earl of Surrey on the Scottish expedition of 1497. He died at the siege of Tournay on 27 Oct. 1513. On 22 June 1513 Thomas landed at Calais on the French expedition. The same year he became Baron Ros on his father's death, and was summoned in 1515 to parliament. He was at the Field of the Cloth of Gold in 1520 and at Henry VIII's meeting with Charles V afterwards. In December 1521 he became cupbearer to the king; in January 1522 he was made steward of Pickering, Yorkshire; and from April to October of the same year he held the appointment of lord warden of the east marches, in which he was succeeded by Lord Percy. He also received the wardenship of Sherwood Forest on 12 July 1524, an office which afterwards became practically hereditary in his family. He was appointed K.G. on 24 April 1525, and on 18 June 1525 he was made Earl of Rutland. He was a great favourite of Henry VIII and had many grants, including the keepership of Enfield Chase, which was given him 12 July 1526. On 11 Oct. 1532 he landed with Henry in France; he was at the coronation of Anne Boleyn in 1533, and took part in her trial. Rutland was actively engaged in meeting the troubles of 1536 (cf. Hist. MSS. Comm. 6th Rep. App. p. 445, &c.). He held a joint command with the Earls of Huntingdon and Shrewsbury and marched to Nottingham and thence to Newark, Southwell, and Doncaster against the northern rebels. He was steward of many monasteries, and from his various ancestors he had claims by way of foundation on certain of the houses. Hence when the dissolution came he received numerous grants of monastic property. In Leicestershire he obtained Charley, Garradon, and, by exchange, Croxton; in Yorkshire, Beverley, Warter, and Rievaulx by exchange. With Robert Tyrwhit he took Belvoir, Eagle, and Kyme in Lincolnshire, and in Yorkshire Nunburnholme (cf. Nichols, Leicestershire, ii. 43).
When Anne of Cleves came to England, Rutland was appointed her lord chamberlain, and met her at Shooter's Hill after her unfortunate interview with the king at Rochester. In 1542 he became constable of Nottingham Castle. He went to the border again on 7 Aug. 1542 as warden of the marches (cf. State Papers, v. 211, for his instructions; Hamilton Papers, vol. i.). But he was recalled, in consequence of illness, in November of the same year. From Newark-on-Trent he wrote on 7 Nov. to the council of the north: ‘As Gode best knows, I ame in a poyur and febyll estat.’ He died 20 Sept. 1543. His will is printed in ‘Testamenta Vetusta’ (ii. 719). When not at Belvoir, which he repaired and turned from a fortress into a dwelling-house, he seems to have lived at the old Benedictine nunnery of Holywell in Shoreditch, London. A portrait by an unknown artist is at Belvoir. He married, first, Elizabeth, daughter of Sir Robert Lovel; and secondly, Eleanor, daughter of Sir William Paston. By his second wife he had five sons and six daughters. His eldest son, Henry, who succeeded him in the title, is separately noticed. His third son, Roger of Uffington, was a benefactor to Corpus Christi College, Cambridge. A letter from the second Lady Rutland expressing dislike of the Holy Maid of Kent has been preserved, and many of the earl's letters are printed in full or in abstract in the ‘State Papers, Henry VIII,’ the ‘Letters and Papers,’ and the Calendar of the Duke of Rutland's manuscripts (Hist. MSS. Comm. 12th Rep.).
Sources
Letters and Papers, Henry VIII, ed. Brewer and Gairdner, passim, especially vol. xi.; Hodgson's Northumberland, iii. ii. 186; Nichols's Leicestershire, ii. 42 sq.; Sanford and Townsend's Great Governing Families of England; Eller's Belvoir Castle, pp. 38 sq.; Nottingham Records, iii. 376, 382; Rutland Papers, ed. Jerdan (Camd. Soc.), pp. 30, 124; Wriothesley's Chron. (Camd. Soc.), i. 50, 56; Three Chapters of Suppression Letters, ed. Wright (Camd. Soc.), pp. 62, 94; Chron. Calais (Camd. Soc.), pp. 12, 20, 41, 76, 169, 175; Froude's Hist. of Engl. iii. 143 (in the index the first and second earls are confused); Doyle's Official Baronage; Burke's Peerage; Tanner's Not. Monast. Indices.
Contributor: W. A. J. A.
published 1893
Name: Manners, Thomas
Title: first Earl of Rutland
Dates: d. 1543
Active Date: 1523
Gender: Male
Spouse: Elizabeth, daughter of Sir Robert Lovel, Eleanor, daughter of Sir William Paston
Likenesses: 1...
Sources: Letters and Papers, Henry VIII, ed. Brewer and Gairdner, passim...
Contributor: W. A. J. A. [William Arthur Jobson Archbold]
Article
Manners, Thomas, first Earl of Rutland d. 1543, eldest son of Sir George Manners, by Anne, daughter of Sir Thomas St. Leger. His father became twelfth baron Ros of Hamlake in 1487 by the death of his mother, Eleanor, eldest sister and coheiress of Edmund, eleventh lord Ros of Hamlake, Triesbut, and Belvoir; he was a distinguished soldier, and was knighted by the Earl of Surrey on the Scottish expedition of 1497. He died at the siege of Tournay on 27 Oct. 1513. On 22 June 1513 Thomas landed at Calais on the French expedition. The same year he became Baron Ros on his father's death, and was summoned in 1515 to parliament. He was at the Field of the Cloth of Gold in 1520 and at Henry VIII's meeting with Charles V afterwards. In December 1521 he became cupbearer to the king; in January 1522 he was made steward of Pickering, Yorkshire; and from April to October of the same year he held the appointment of lord warden of the east marches, in which he was succeeded by Lord Percy. He also received the wardenship of Sherwood Forest on 12 July 1524, an office which afterwards became practically hereditary in his family. He was appointed K.G. on 24 April 1525, and on 18 June 1525 he was made Earl of Rutland. He was a great favourite of Henry VIII and had many grants, including the keepership of Enfield Chase, which was given him 12 July 1526. On 11 Oct. 1532 he landed with Henry in France; he was at the coronation of Anne Boleyn in 1533, and took part in her trial. Rutland was actively engaged in meeting the troubles of 1536 (cf. Hist. MSS. Comm. 6th Rep. App. p. 445, &c.). He held a joint command with the Earls of Huntingdon and Shrewsbury and marched to Nottingham and thence to Newark, Southwell, and Doncaster against the northern rebels. He was steward of many monasteries, and from his various ancestors he had claims by way of foundation on certain of the houses. Hence when the dissolution came he received numerous grants of monastic property. In Leicestershire he obtained Charley, Garradon, and, by exchange, Croxton; in Yorkshire, Beverley, Warter, and Rievaulx by exchange. With Robert Tyrwhit he took Belvoir, Eagle, and Kyme in Lincolnshire, and in Yorkshire Nunburnholme (cf. Nichols, Leicestershire, ii. 43).
When Anne of Cleves came to England, Rutland was appointed her lord chamberlain, and met her at Shooter's Hill after her unfortunate interview with the king at Rochester. In 1542 he became constable of Nottingham Castle. He went to the border again on 7 Aug. 1542 as warden of the marches (cf. State Papers, v. 211, for his instructions; Hamilton Papers, vol. i.). But he was recalled, in consequence of illness, in November of the same year. From Newark-on-Trent he wrote on 7 Nov. to the council of the north: ‘As Gode best knows, I ame in a poyur and febyll estat.’ He died 20 Sept. 1543. His will is printed in ‘Testamenta Vetusta’ (ii. 719). When not at Belvoir, which he repaired and turned from a fortress into a dwelling-house, he seems to have lived at the old Benedictine nunnery of Holywell in Shoreditch, London. A portrait by an unknown artist is at Belvoir. He married, first, Elizabeth, daughter of Sir Robert Lovel; and secondly, Eleanor, daughter of Sir William Paston. By his second wife he had five sons and six daughters. His eldest son, Henry, who succeeded him in the title, is separately noticed. His third son, Roger of Uffington, was a benefactor to Corpus Christi College, Cambridge. A letter from the second Lady Rutland expressing dislike of the Holy Maid of Kent has been preserved, and many of the earl's letters are printed in full or in abstract in the ‘State Papers, Henry VIII,’ the ‘Letters and Papers,’ and the Calendar of the Duke of Rutland's manuscripts (Hist. MSS. Comm. 12th Rep.).
Sources
Letters and Papers, Henry VIII, ed. Brewer and Gairdner, passim, especially vol. xi.; Hodgson's Northumberland, iii. ii. 186; Nichols's Leicestershire, ii. 42 sq.; Sanford and Townsend's Great Governing Families of England; Eller's Belvoir Castle, pp. 38 sq.; Nottingham Records, iii. 376, 382; Rutland Papers, ed. Jerdan (Camd. Soc.), pp. 30, 124; Wriothesley's Chron. (Camd. Soc.), i. 50, 56; Three Chapters of Suppression Letters, ed. Wright (Camd. Soc.), pp. 62, 94; Chron. Calais (Camd. Soc.), pp. 12, 20, 41, 76, 169, 175; Froude's Hist. of Engl. iii. 143 (in the index the first and second earls are confused); Doyle's Official Baronage; Burke's Peerage; Tanner's Not. Monast. Indices.
Contributor: W. A. J. A.
published 1893