Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
NameSir William Lucy 
[221, Charlcote, pp. 397 & 399], [54, Sir Thos Lucy's article.], [165, p.297]
[221, Charlcote, pp. 397 & 399], [54, Sir Thos Lucy's article.], [165, p.297]Deathca 1346, At siege of Calais
GeneralMP for Warcs. At Crecy. Retainer of John of Gaunt.
FatherSir William III Lucy (1277-ca1329)
MotherElizabeth
Notes for Sir William Lucy
Sep 2005, TFPL: At this man the Lucy descent becomes cloudy. Dugdale syas in the text that it is:
1. Sir William (his father) b. c. 1277, d. c. 1329, m. Elizabeth
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2. Sir William (himself) d. aft. 1349, m. Eliz.
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3. Thomas d. aft 1355 who m. (1) Elizabeth, (2) Philippa
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4. Sir William MP d. aft 1399
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5. Sir Thomas MP d. 1425 m. Alice Hugford
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6. William, heir to Eliz Clinton, d. 1467 m. Eliz de Grey
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7. Sir William d. c. 1492 m. (1) Margaret, (2) Alice
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8. Edmund son of Margaret, d. c. 1498 m. Jane
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9. Sir Thos.d. 1525, m. Eliz. Empson
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10. Willam d. 1552 m. Anne Farmer
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11. Sir Thomas who built Charlcote.
On the other hand Alice Fairfax-Lucy (in her book) omits Thomas in generation 3.
And the Warks 1619 visitation pus an extra generation of a William at 3, gets generations 5 and 6 in reverse order and gives the wife of Edmund in generation 8 as Anne, not Jane.
Currently I am following Dugdale as he appears to have examined the various charters and his dates make sense. But it really needs someone to find some IPMs and other such documentation.
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1. Sir William (his father) b. c. 1277, d. c. 1329, m. Elizabeth
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2. Sir William (himself) d. aft. 1349, m. Eliz.
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3. Thomas d. aft 1355 who m. (1) Elizabeth, (2) Philippa
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4. Sir William MP d. aft 1399
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5. Sir Thomas MP d. 1425 m. Alice Hugford
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6. William, heir to Eliz Clinton, d. 1467 m. Eliz de Grey
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7. Sir William d. c. 1492 m. (1) Margaret, (2) Alice
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8. Edmund son of Margaret, d. c. 1498 m. Jane
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9. Sir Thos.d. 1525, m. Eliz. Empson
!
10. Willam d. 1552 m. Anne Farmer
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11. Sir Thomas who built Charlcote.
On the other hand Alice Fairfax-Lucy (in her book) omits Thomas in generation 3.
And the Warks 1619 visitation pus an extra generation of a William at 3, gets generations 5 and 6 in reverse order and gives the wife of Edmund in generation 8 as Anne, not Jane.
Currently I am following Dugdale as he appears to have examined the various charters and his dates make sense. But it really needs someone to find some IPMs and other such documentation.
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