Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
NameWilliam Dunbar 
General'Of London'
Notes for William Dunbar
In a report by Leo Culleton for RCLPL in 1912, he reported solely:
William Dunbar of London (born say 1700-1720).
He had researched loads of wills in the 18th century and found none relevant. Ditto London directories. Ditto a few parish burial records.
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TFPL, 2021: Using Ancestry I found a baptism for Charlotte in 1737 which gave her parents as William and Elizabeth Dunbar. Ancestry even provided a copy of the Register page.
The obvious next move was to search for a marriage wo William Dunbar to an Elizabeth, perhaps any time in the twenty years before 1738. No marriages were to be found in London. Nor were there any in England. Widening the area to everywhere. But Ancestry, FindMyPast and Scotland’s People did agree that there had been two marriages in that period, with Scotland’s People offering to provide images of the registers (for a very modest fee, of course):
Parish
Surname Forename Spouse Name Date Number Ref Parish
DUNBAR WILLIAM ELIZABETH DUNBAR/ 06/01/1729 136/ 10 446 New Spynie or Spynie
DUNBAR WILLIAM ELIZABETH ROSE/ 07/01/1720 123/ 10 112 Nairn
The First appeals because it is the nearer marriage date to the birth of Charlotte, but the possession of the same surname by the mother indicates that they could be relatives and the transcript by FindMyPast adds that both were residents of the same village which makes it even more likely that they were relatives.
I toy heavily with buying copies of both marriages.
But first I might see if I can find any Scots Dunbar children of these two marriages. But Scotland’s People show no birth to Parents of William Dunbar and Elizabeth (only).
Ancestry produced two births, a Charles Dunbar, also baptised at St Olave’s, where Charlotte had been baptised, and on 6 July 1738. Secondly there was another child baptised in St Olave’s, John son of Wm. and Elizabeth Dunbar and baptised on 10 January 1731-2 (in modern parlance). John is also said to have died three months later in April 1732 but I have yet to find his burial record.
Later: John’s burial found in St Olave, Hart Street, City of London on 18 April 1732, copy of register found.
A search for all Dunbar baptisms in London in the period of 1736 plus or minus ten years and with parents of W*m (not the use of the wild card to pick up both William and Wm) and Elizabeth produces only the above three children: John, Charlott and Charles.
There are several other Dunbar births in London but no more to parents of William and Elizabeth. There are also other births to William Dunbar in various parts of the British Isles but no more with a mother also of Elizabeth.
While I can find other Dunbar marriages the above two remain the only pairs of William and Elizabeth.
So there is some evidence that there was one family that attended St Olave’s church in Hart Street, London and had children that lived long enough to be baptised from 1731 to 1738. It is very tempting to see this family as the one that married in January 1729, so I shall order that image from Scotland’s People.
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William Dunbar of London (born say 1700-1720).
He had researched loads of wills in the 18th century and found none relevant. Ditto London directories. Ditto a few parish burial records.
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TFPL, 2021: Using Ancestry I found a baptism for Charlotte in 1737 which gave her parents as William and Elizabeth Dunbar. Ancestry even provided a copy of the Register page.
The obvious next move was to search for a marriage wo William Dunbar to an Elizabeth, perhaps any time in the twenty years before 1738. No marriages were to be found in London. Nor were there any in England. Widening the area to everywhere. But Ancestry, FindMyPast and Scotland’s People did agree that there had been two marriages in that period, with Scotland’s People offering to provide images of the registers (for a very modest fee, of course):
Parish
Surname Forename Spouse Name Date Number Ref Parish
DUNBAR WILLIAM ELIZABETH DUNBAR/ 06/01/1729 136/ 10 446 New Spynie or Spynie
DUNBAR WILLIAM ELIZABETH ROSE/ 07/01/1720 123/ 10 112 Nairn
The First appeals because it is the nearer marriage date to the birth of Charlotte, but the possession of the same surname by the mother indicates that they could be relatives and the transcript by FindMyPast adds that both were residents of the same village which makes it even more likely that they were relatives.
I toy heavily with buying copies of both marriages.
But first I might see if I can find any Scots Dunbar children of these two marriages. But Scotland’s People show no birth to Parents of William Dunbar and Elizabeth (only).
Ancestry produced two births, a Charles Dunbar, also baptised at St Olave’s, where Charlotte had been baptised, and on 6 July 1738. Secondly there was another child baptised in St Olave’s, John son of Wm. and Elizabeth Dunbar and baptised on 10 January 1731-2 (in modern parlance). John is also said to have died three months later in April 1732 but I have yet to find his burial record.
Later: John’s burial found in St Olave, Hart Street, City of London on 18 April 1732, copy of register found.
A search for all Dunbar baptisms in London in the period of 1736 plus or minus ten years and with parents of W*m (not the use of the wild card to pick up both William and Wm) and Elizabeth produces only the above three children: John, Charlott and Charles.
There are several other Dunbar births in London but no more to parents of William and Elizabeth. There are also other births to William Dunbar in various parts of the British Isles but no more with a mother also of Elizabeth.
While I can find other Dunbar marriages the above two remain the only pairs of William and Elizabeth.
So there is some evidence that there was one family that attended St Olave’s church in Hart Street, London and had children that lived long enough to be baptised from 1731 to 1738. It is very tempting to see this family as the one that married in January 1729, so I shall order that image from Scotland’s People.
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